Ken Norton : 'Ten Count'

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  1. ronnyrains

    ronnyrains Active Member Full Member

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    Ken Norton : 'Ten Count' Record 5-5 (3 KO)
    vs Ranked Top Ten Opponents -(Ring Magazine)...............Norton Ranked

    03/31/73....Muhammad Ali .....# 1........W 12..................# 9
    ....(North American Boxing Federation Heavyweight Championship)....
    09/10/73....Muhammad Ali .....# 3.........L 12..................# 2
    ....(North American Boxing Federation Heavyweight Championship)....
    03/26/74....George Foreman .............KO by 2................# 4
    .......................World Champion...................................................
    .................(World Heavyweight Championship)..............................
    06/25/74....Boone Kirkman ....# 10.......KO 8.................# 5
    03/24/75....Jerry Quarry ........# 5.........KO 5.................# 4
    ....(North American Boxing Federation Heavyweight Championship)....
    09/28/76.....Muhammad Ali ..................L 15................# 2
    .......................World Champion...................................................
    .................(World Heavyweight Championship)..............................
    05/11/77.....Duane Bobick ......# 5........KO 1 ...............# 3
    11/05/75.....Jimmy Young ......# 1.........W 15...............# 2
    .......(for Vacant World Boxing Council Heavyweight Championship)....
    06/09/78.....Larry Holmes ......# 3.........L 15................# 2
    ..........(for World Boxing Council Heavyweight Championship)..........
    05/11/81.....Gerry Cooney .....# 2 .......KO by 1.............# 9
     
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  2. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was the Norton vs Shavers fight suppose to be in the above list also?

    1979-03-23 : Ken Norton 225 lbs lost to Earnie Shavers 210 lbs by KO at 1:58 in round 1 of 12
    • Location: Las Vegas Hilton, Las Vegas Hilton Pavilion, Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
    • Referee: Mills Lane
    Notes
    From Sports Illustrated:

    Norton's plan was not to go to war, at least not early. In winning 56 of 64 fights, Shavers had scored 54 knockouts. No one questioned his power, only his stamina. "He has a tendency to get tight, and when he gets tight, he gets wild," said Bill Slayton, Norton's trainer. "We have to either fight him at a distance or in very close. Kenny has to move in quick and meet him, and make him work inside. The closer Kenny is to a man, the better he is and the better I feel."

    The strategy seemed sound. But early in the first round—with Shavers punching at an incredible pace—Norton improvised. First he elected to lie against the ropes and catch and counter. When that didn't work, he then decided to just cover up and let Shavers punch himself out. It was a fatal decision.

    Shavers has always had a tendency to loop his punches. But with Norton standing dead still in front of him, Shavers began to punch with newfound discipline. He kept his punches short and tight, and whatever part of his upper anatomy Norton failed to protect with his curious peekaboo defense, Shavers blasted.

    In the first minute, Shavers hooked Norton wickedly to the liver and then hooked him to the head, slamming the thunderous punch against the temple. Norton didn't go down, but he was hurt, and the fight was as good as over.

    As Norton tried to escape, Shavers chased him, firing at full bore. The 30th punch, a hook, caught Norton flush on the head and he started to fall. The 31st, a right, nailed him as he fell. Rolling over, Norton got up at eight and staggered back against the ropes. He nearly fell again.

    Referee Lane wiped off Norton's gloves and stepped back. Shavers stepped in. Once more Norton, like a man sleepwalking, tried to escape. No chance. Shavers hooked him to the head and then jolted him with a tremendous right uppercut that sent Norton tumbling down. The onetime WBC champion rolled over and crawled to the ropes. On instinct alone, he pulled himself up. Slayton leaped up the steps. Lane waved him away. Slayton signaled he wanted the fight ended. Nodding, Lane stopped it.

    Common opponents
     
  3. ronnyrains

    ronnyrains Active Member Full Member

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    Hi Longhhorn 71: -No because Earnie Shavers was not "Ranked by Ring Magazine " At that particular time. Oh yes I remember this bout vividley. Man you did a great job on this Fight, do you have other great fights where you have all they info?

    Great research , Yes its tough to do records Top ten opponents and Yes WBC #1 Norton # 2 Shavers -Then Ring does not rank Earnie at all at the same exact time.

    I would be happy to do WBA TOP TEN COUNTS FOR FIGHTER'S BUT ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO GET ALL THE MONTHLY RATINGS, i'VE TRIED EVERYTHING -EVEN CALLED South America, Panama City WBA OFFICIALS , THEY SAID THEY WERE ALL BURNED UP IN A FIRE? -bon fire maybe? -roasted Marshmellows?
     
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  4. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ok....no problem compadre.
     
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  5. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Very good, what about Norton vs Cobb? I checked Cobb was the 9th-ranked heavyweight contender with a record of 17-0 with 16 knockouts.
     
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  6. ronnyrains

    ronnyrains Active Member Full Member

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    Mendoza was it "Ring Magazine?" I of course Knew Cobb made their top tens, just could not find it for this bout? My research has Norton nor Cobb ranked by Ring, And who I did my research on. I've looked for WBA lists till I'm Blue in the face, even contacted them outright to no avail. Neither was ranked by Ring , And believe you are correct the WBA had Cobb at # 9 off his Aug 2, 1980 Shavers Victory. and Norton was able to be ranked no.10 (Ring Feb 81 ) Off of his Cobb victory.

    all my 'Ten Count' Records are ratings from Ring Magazine
    Jan. 81 Ring
    Champion: Holmes
    1- Weaver
    2-Cooney
    3-L. Spinks
    4-Dokes
    5-Coetzee
    6-Monroe
    7-Berbick
    8-Page
    9-Mercardo
    10- L. Jones
    the Ratings for this Magazine are like November 15, 1980
    in other words this was Ring Magazine Ratings at the time of Norton-Cobb.
     
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  7. sweetsci

    sweetsci Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ring had Cobb at #21 in the ratings immediately prior to the Shavers fight.

    Going into the Norton - Cobb fight, Ring ranked Cobb #13 and Norton #15. Immediately afterward Norton moved up to #10 and Cobb dropped to #15.

    BTW, when I say "immediately prior" I mean the "ratings as of" date printed on the ratings page, not the issue that was on the stands or the issue date. In those days we had to wait a couple months for the magazine ratings to reflect what happened in a given fight, and by then more stuff happened...
     
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  8. ronnyrains

    ronnyrains Active Member Full Member

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    Absolutely right say you had a June 17th bout, the results would 9 outta 10 be in a September Ring. So Cobb-Norton November 1980, results February 81 Ring Magazine.
     
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  9. ronnyrains

    ronnyrains Active Member Full Member

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    And Yes I did know Shavers was top ten WBA at the time. /not Ring Mag.