Lennox Lewis vs Rocky Marciano

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  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    That’s a good post
     
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  2. Stiches Yarn

    Stiches Yarn Active Member Full Member

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    Next time i want to win a discussion against someone who knows how to source his opinion and the facts which prove me wrong, i will use that quote !
    But yes it should be noted that we don't have to listen to every single trainer that are held in particularly high regard in the boxing community.
    I could have mentioned Lou duva as well because he has a Lot of things to say about Rocky Marciano's greatness, but i didn't because he always portrayed the rock as an invincible force that should be in the conversation as the greatest heavyweight of all time.
     
  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    The heavyweight limit in the amatuers is 201lbs, they are really cruiserweights.
     
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  4. Moggy94

    Moggy94 Active Member Full Member

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    I like both fighters but sorry guy Lewis walks through him in 4 rounds and that's being generous. The difference in size, strength, height and reach is just too huge not to mention it's Lennox Lewis who is the best super Heavyweight ever.

    This is the equivalent to putting Duran in his prime at lightweight against Marciano in terms of weight, Marciano would walk through him.
     
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  5. Moggy94

    Moggy94 Active Member Full Member

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    Rocky was a Heavyweight back then, he could have potentially been a light heavyweight anywhere from the 70's to present.
     
  6. Moggy94

    Moggy94 Active Member Full Member

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    Facts, there's no fighters under 200 pounds in history beating Lennox Lewis, Klitschko brothers or Tyson Fury.
     
  7. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Rocky couldn’t have been anything other than a heavyweight. Just because Super heavyweights were invented by modern science it doesn’t mean Rocky becomes a light heavyweight after a certain timeline. He was and still is a heavyweight.

    Today they call existing heavyweights “cruiserweight”.

    Just So they can call superheavyweights “heavyweight”.

    That’s all that happened.
     
  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    He weighed 189, that`s a small cruiser right? Surely he could have trimmed down to light-heavy being only 5`9, he had the same reach as Duran!
     
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  9. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed
     
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  10. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lewis-Rahman....one punch....Rocky can't?
     
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  11. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Thats what they call it now. And it’s only because SHW is not observed in professional boxing.

    not under old rules. sports science changed everything. That’s why there are SHWs in existence.
     
  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    It`s got nothing to do with science, Marciano was only 5`9, the average heavyweight in the 80`s was not under 201lbs and neither was any top 10 heavy in the 70`s and that had nothing to do with science.
     
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  13. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    The science made all fighters heavier. The science made the tallest fighters even heavier. And that’s the problem with making comparison between the post sports science era and pre science era. You can’t level the field because you can’t know what the modern fighter looks like without the advances in science.
     
  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    People are getting bigger, the average height during Napoleon`s reign was 5`7, humans are still evolving and are getting taller.
     
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  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Rocky didn't have the quicks, the height or length to reach him.
     
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