Prime Povetkin vs. Prime Luis Ortiz

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  1. Mister Pugilist

    Mister Pugilist Active Member Full Member

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    who was the better fighter, I'm curious
     
  2. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Povetkin. He has much better resume.
     
  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Povetkin KO's him, Povetkin was simply a level above Ortiz.
     
  4. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Povetkin. Ultimately, there are levels to the sport. Ignoring all of his pro accolades, he beat everybody he fought as an amateur and won the Euro, World and Olympics. Povetkin at 41 landed a better win than Ortiz did at any age, and it wasn't his best win or even that close.
     
  5. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    Prime Povetkin would stop Oldtiz.
     
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  6. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ortiz would get stopped in 7 never more than a gatekeeper with no good wins to his name.
     
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  7. EddieLima

    EddieLima Member Full Member

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    If it goes to the scorecards Ortiz and I don't see Povetkin KOing him. King Kong for me
     
  8. Ilesey

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    Povetkin via a close but clear UD.
     
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  9. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, pretty surprised at how much in favour of Povetkin in this thread. I think the point needs to be made that a far more youthful King Kong would have been an absolute nightmare for any heavyweight. Just the fact that Ortiz can still hang with todays top heavyweights says a lot because I reckon he's actually closer to 50 that the reputed 42. I would slightly favour a mid 20's Ortiz over Povetkin.
     
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  10. Thunderstorm

    Thunderstorm Active Member Full Member

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    Ruiz beat no one and made joshua quit in the corner resume means nothing
     
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  11. RM1923

    RM1923 New Member banned Full Member

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    Povetkin clearly
     
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  12. vituman

    vituman Member Full Member

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    Oh dear god...
     
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  13. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Luis Ortiz became a professional boxer at the age of 30 (almost 31), so his peak is probably in amateur boxing.
    Peak Povetkin would undoubtedly stop him with a knockout.
     
  14. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Prime Povetkin was a beast. Got to be favourite here.
     
  15. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Very possibly, though some heavies don't peak until their early 30's.

    Reality is even this prime amateur Ortiz wasn't on Povetkin's level at the time. Ortiz wasn't even the best Cuban heavyweight at the time or the 2nd best, or even the 3rd best with Savon, Solis and Lopez Nunez all who went to the Olympics ahead of him. In 2004 when Povetkin was winning Olympic gold, Ortiz was back in Cuba having lost to Lopez Nunez.

    To think a possibly prime Ortiz who wasn't even top 3 in his own country could compete and beat the Olympic champion Povetkin back then is a stretch of the imagination.