Is Sugar Ray Leonard The Most Complete Fighter Ever

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  1. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I get it, moneytheman.

    I guess I'll just have to quit the forum for being so stupid to say such things. Thanks for helping me see the error of my ways.
     
  2. Pugguy

    Pugguy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    JT - LOL, I too have been guilty of feeding and fattening up the BS artist formerly known as MTM12, in fact, I feel like giving him a good “serve” right now…but I must show discipline….big breaths, big breaths, Ommm…Ommm…Ommm…..there! Beat yet another unhealthy craving without succumbing….
     
  3. JohnThomas1

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    Yeah but you and CT were just going the amusement route. Others engage this rabbit and bumber all week long and they are far more worthy than that groundhog nightmare :lol:
     
  4. Tin_Ribs

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    Honestly, this place is slipping. A thread with the regulars being goaded by trolls into pointless debate should be at least 15 pages of pure pain by this point, not a pishy six pager ffs. Get NoNeck in, he'll drag it out another ten pages before dinner.
     
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  5. JohnThomas1

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    :lol:
     
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  6. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Money the Man used punctuation, but his grammar was awfully fractured, many run on sentences, your style is similar.
    Why do you think others independently came to the same conclusion man?
    I do not believe you are trolling, but are committed to a simplistic, misguided idea-like Ye Olde Tymers who would say any accomplished Ancient would defeat all future comers (even if much smaller).
    You being honest, but just the mirror-image of them.

    You reference videos, not yet linking specific videos is virtually the same.
    You were accused of personal attacks on this thread.
    I do not recall differences in using quotes.
    You tell me he is not you, OK.
    But ask others-you seem very similar, own to always favoring newer fighters, it seems like you just put the word "never" in back of the beginning of Money...
    You tell me it is not like the Monty Python sketch where Der Fuhrer popped up in England as "Mr. Hilter", OK.

    But you have some logical errors in what you believe.
    First off, as virtually everybody else in this thread believes-& some real boxing aficionados-SRR is at least up there with the most complete boxers ever. And extremely "fluid".
    IF there were more advanced people & he was "left behind", there would be numerous boxers since his time more complete.
    Instead of at best very few, maybe none.
    There is nothing either outdated nor unique about his style: it is completely mistaken that nobody fights like him.
    It is just that almost nobody is as good as he was.

    Ali is a different story.
    He famously violated a bunch of rules, but due to his physical skills, reflexes, savvy, & way he combined everything, he was superb, arguably the GOAT HW.

    It is fatally mistaken that just because nobody was AS good, that meant boxing had advanced.
    A ton of World Class boxers in all divisions drew inspiration from him.
    Including ATGs like Holmes. Who was the top guy for 7 + years, even without being quite as great as Ali!
    It is NOT that in a few years boxing advanced so if Ali was born 10 or 20 years later he he could not dominate-it was that nobody had his combination of talents & adaptability.
     
  7. Monnever

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    Well as i said many people have similar styles and he insults people and is uptight and manly uses specific quotes I don't use,I said I'm not him it should be all that's needed to say I'm not him and leave it as that I won't keep saying it.and I explained my stance on newer fighters in detail which has nothing to do with being newer.it just happens to be the ones I say are more fluid and skilled.

    I even explained yesterday a person can go to the gym and they would be trained to fight like srr/Ali if they asked but it wouldn't be exact the trainer would teach teach them more for that style this isn't by choice of liking a newer style,its a advancement of newer style. fighters which are less flawed and more skilled.

    Srr would be ran though by mutiple fighters from the 1970s and on he just isn't that impressive compared to these fighters,so yea he is very out of date

    this is the same reason I pick the newer over a old era,every fighter rules picked would for a fact lose cause they never fought anybody like the person he picked them to beat,every fighter he picked was out of date more flawed and less skilled then the person he picked from the older era to beat,

    im on youtube which is why my style is so similar cause there we all talk mostly the same way Grammer doesn't matter in a debate there,
     
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  8. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Methinks moneytheman doth protest too much.
     
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  9. scandcb

    scandcb Active Member Full Member

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    I think prime versions of Duran and Whitaker were more complete than SRL.
     
  10. scandcb

    scandcb Active Member Full Member

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    What?
     
  11. Monnever

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    What?
     
  12. scandcb

    scandcb Active Member Full Member

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    The quoted post makes little sense.

    "unlike how they act like srr and l did which they didn't"

    It reads as though you are a professional boxer and that yourself didn't face skilled opponents.
     
  13. Monnever

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    Find where u see me say I cause that would mean me speaking as if I was in the ring myself if you don't see i you might need to see a dr because you have illusions, and its as I said srr and srl didn't fight the same type of skilled fighters
     
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  14. scandcb

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    SRL and SRR both had better professional careers than Roy Jones.

    Whether they were better boxers or not is open to debate.

    SRR was slightly better than Jones imo.

    Jones and Leonard were about equal imo.
     
  15. Monnever

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    Find where I said i and no neither were close to roy skillwise,he would make both of their opponents look lost and never lose
     
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