legacy wise whoever becomes the first undisputed champ in 20 years

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  1. Mister Pugilist

    Mister Pugilist Active Member Full Member

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    do they automatically have a greater legacy than Wlad

    whoever gets it first

    -usyk, joshua, fury, wilder?
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    It would take alot of hard work......
     
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    MarvelousMarvinGolovkin Kownackis belly button lint Full Member

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    Only 2 there have a chance at even shaking a stick at Wlads legacy. Fury and Usyk
     
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  5. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    It's not how many belts you have. It's who you took them off of and how well you defend them. Belts are worthless trinkets. It's only people who matter. You can be the baddest mother****er on the planet and only have a pair of suspenders holding your britches up.
     
  6. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Nope.
     
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    mono Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Broner comes to mind.
     
  8. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    No…. Especially when an old version of Wlad went life and death with one of them, and the other (commonly regarded as the best of the recent crop of heavyweights) beat him via Segio Mora level spoiling tactics… and again… an old and mentally awful version of Wlad.
     
  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In al fairness though, this works against Wlad to some extent. I respect Byrd as an ATG, and Haye, Sultan, Chag, and Povetkin were damn good fighterss. All were diminutive in comparison, and it is hard to find even one big, strapping, hard-hitting quality heavy on Wlad's record.

    I think you could honestly make the argument that cruiser Usyk coming up and beating AJ, or Fury dealing with big boys like Wilder and Wlad himself, impresses people more that Wladdy's 17 wins against overmatched fighters.

    Not arguing it too strongly. I like Wlad, and he has his place in history. Just saying.
     
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  10. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Wlad actually beat 23, but I do see your point. HWs will keep getting bigger. This new breed- Fury, Zhang, Bakole, Joyce, 270-280 pound HWs will become more and more common.
     
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    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, and I have argued myself that if Wilder's reign against sick guys and bums counts, then so does Wlad's WBO reign, which is comparable. But his big, epic reign was the 17 of the unified crown.
     
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    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    I thought it was 18 defenses for 19 overall, it might have been 17 defenses with 18 overall, but I am feeling a strong attachment to that 18..
     
  13. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I thought it was 6 fir the WBO and 17 for the unified.