Is Andy Ruiz the new improved modern day version of Tony Galento?

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  1. JohnThomas1

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    Discuss...........
     
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  2. Journeyman92

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    I bet it bothers you and your alts all the way to the core of your hive where the queen bug lives that Ruiz would beat the breaks off your beloved saints Cleveland and Norton.
     
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  3. Glass City Cobra

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    He kind of reminds me of Tua, but has a better right hand and inside game. Galento tended to crouch low, bobbed and weaved more, and was a lot dirtier and unorthodox.
     
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  4. Philly161

    Philly161 "Fundamentals are the crutch of the talentless" banned Full Member

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    No they're just both fat.

    Galento started boxing late. Ruiz had a long amateur career. Galento known for fighting dirty, both literally and figuratively. Ruiz is not. Galento was also a personality and feigned overconfidence. Ruiz is pretty quiet and humble (for a boxer).

    Oh also Ruiz was hw champ for a while.
     
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    Spiritual successor perhaps, but they are very different kinds of fighter.
     
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    Ruiz was never the champ tho. Certainly not for me. There was only one title in Galento's day and if there were multiple he quite likely would have been able to jag a win on a good night against a lesser titleist.

    Galento was considered the second best heavyweight on earth at one point and was considered a top #5 Heavyweight for at least 3 years. Both were/are grossly overweight and both have been genuine contenders. Galento was consistently a teeny bit higher in the ten and Ruiz has hit Tony's longevity mark around about now.

    Galento was certainly dirty, absolutely. Ruiz has come into the odd fight in deplorable condition and one could argue how well
    Tony was ever conditioned.

    I do see some similarities, particularly in divisional standing.
     
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    Could Ruiz drop Joe Louis! Maybe
    Would Louis smash Ruiz.?
    Definitely!
     
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  8. JohnThomas1

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    Thought provoking points!
     
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  9. JohnThomas1

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    Oh you are are definitely preaching to the choir. Lets not let him derail what i hope is a thread that garners a bit of fun and insight tho mate. We are better than that.
     
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  10. Philly161

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    At the time he beat AJ, the majority opinion was AJ was the legit champ and wilder was unproven. Fury was retired, AJ was absolutely the man in the hw division when Ruiz upset him to capture 75% of the claim.

    If by "is Andy Ruiz the new Tony galento" the poster means "are both those guys boxers who have been rated in the top 10 of the hw division" then yes, i guess it makes sense. In that case, dillian Whyte is the new galento too
     
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  11. NoNeck

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    Ruiz has had an excuse ready after every loss, so I'd say he's more like George Foreman.
     
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  12. JohnThomas1

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    Hey, i'm open to all observations. With both being ludicrously fat and similar level fighters comparative to their era i feel some comparisons can be made. I was "the poster" of course.

    At the time Ruiz beat Joshua Fury was absolutely not retired - he was three fights deep into his comeback and had drew Wilder a full 6 months prior to Ruiz - Joshua in a fight almost everyone thought Fury won. He was also the standing lineal champion and has been for 7 years.
     
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    you're right i had forgotten Fury was back at that time. you're certainly entitled to not think Ruiz was the champ, or even a champ. at the time I still considered Joshua the #1 heavyweight and several bodies ranked him that way
     
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    I can certainly understand a segment considering Joshua #1 at one point but IMO Fury's "draw" with Widler a few comeback fights deep shows me personally that Anthony definitely wasn't the top dog by the time Ruiz beat him. Again, i can accept an alternate viewpoint, absolutely. Joshua was certainly ahead of Wilder.
     
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  15. Dynamicpuncher

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    Ruiz is definitely way more naturally talented than Galento, Ruiz has some blazing quick hands and puts his punches together very well. And whilst Galento was fat, Ruiz just takes the p*** in that regard excuse my French.

    I was actually excited when I see Ruiz seemed to be getting slimmer, and taking his training more seriously. Then I see his last fight vs Ortiz where he was yet again grossly overweight, and was lackluster and fought a very disappointing lazy fight barely winning despite scoring 3 knockdowns. I thought the same thing Eddie Futch said about Riddick Bowe "A Lost Cause".
     
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