Tokyo Douglas V Kinshasha Foreman

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Who wins this battle

  1. Buster

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    38.2%
  2. George

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    61.8%
  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Douglas by virtue of remaining upright for 6+ rounds.
     
  2. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Foreman KO2 Douglas
     
  3. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Foreman couldn't even KO the fragile Young in 2, much less Douglas.
    Douglas beats him handily.
     
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  4. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Douglas will simply outland, he's more skilled and strong enough to stand toe to toe.
     
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  5. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tokyo Douglas gives hell to any version of Ali and even stands a chance of beating him.
     
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  6. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 I’m become seeker of milk Full Member

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    People seem to be blind to the fact Jimmy Young stood toe to toe at certain points of there fight.
     
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  7. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And so did TommyChin, Alex Stewart and Lou Saverese.with Comeback Foreman...............and every single one of those three packed genuine glass because all three were wiped out in the first round in their careers, two of them within seconds....
     
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  8. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    If Douglas were to win he'd need to survive some of the most painful body shots any boxer has thrown. I do not recall seeing Douglas ever handling body blows the way Ali did. Douglas would also likely need to know how to fight off the ropes and smother Foreman to put a wet blanket on his raging assault.

    Part of the reason Douglas did well against Tyson was the height difference, bullying Tyson with his jab, uppercuts, and imposing his size, then using his feet to maintain his preferred difference and move around. He wouldn't be able to do that with Foreman.
     
  9. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even Tokyo Douglas is not standing up to Zaire Foreman's body shots. I'd bet heavily on George Foreman in this match up, and I'd sleep like a baby the night before the fight..
     
  10. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only reason that Foreman landed some body shots on Ali was that Ali allowed it to happen while rope a dope him sitting on the ropes...while buckling Foreman with straight rights.

    Trivia.....can you show me where young or old Foreman pinned a top tier opponent, who Douglas was on that one night,, on the ropes who was 6'4/235 pounds with feet not stuck in cement......Frazier/.Norton dont count because of the size difference and neither pumped the jab the way Douglas did while moving.
     
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  11. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Simply untrue.
     
  12. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was exhausted emotionally and physically. He said Ali kept asking him if that's all you got and he said to himself yeah.
     
  13. Pugguy

    Pugguy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Young wasn’t fragile. He actually had a good set of whiskers - even so, Foreman still rocked the bejesus out of him with a single left hook in round 7. Cooney also teed off on Jimmy but even he couldn’t put down the old, out of shape version.

    No, as outstanding a start that Ali did have in Zaire, Foreman cut the ring and cornered Ali before the first round was out - landing heavy shots to the head and body.

    That Ali would be cornered by Foreman again was a given. Therefore, to exert some control over that, Ali preemptively went to the ropes to better set himself and deal with the incoming artillery.

    If Ali had tried to move and pointedly avoid the ropes he would’ve been far worse off - as it was Foreman still landed hellacious, blood pissing body punches.

    Ali simply had a well conditioned body, the resilience of which (concrete as Norton phrased it) was right up there with his chin.
     
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  14. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Laughable. Ali is so much faster, mobile, athletic, talented and better than Douglas its not even debatable. Ali’s movement makes Douglas’s fat arse look like he’s wading through molasses.

    News flash! Tokyo Douglas is the same James Douglas who folded like a deck of cards against Tony Tucker. It’s just he had a fighter made to order for him who just kept plodding forward into his jab and right hand and was clueless to do anything about it. Tysons crap performance and arrogant mindset is part a big part of the reason Douglas looked good.

    Douglas was talented had a superb jab and given the right conditions could look very good on a given night but his career had lots of sub par efforts, off nights and flat out flops. Tokyo Douglas wasn’t some super human version of Buster, it was the same old guy with the same old flaws who found an opponent who performed terribly, paid Douglas no respect, and who’s own limitations were laid bare by Busters undeniable attributes (namely his reach, and brilliant solid jab).
     
  15. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Let's not forget it was a 16 foot ring, not a 20 foot ring, not a 24 foot ring. Ali didn't have that much room to move