Joyce vs Parker - Discussion and Poll.

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Joyce vs Parker

Poll closed Sep 23, 2022.
  1. Joyce - KO/TKO

    27.6%
  2. Joyce - Decision

    38.2%
  3. Parker - KO/TKO

    9.2%
  4. Parker - Decision

    25.0%
  1. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Fair enough to call him J-Park 3.0.

    I really think this is a new Parker we are seeing now.

    A lot of people have not caught up with the transformation - and they are still writing Parker off.

    Which is why this is a great time to show the world what he's got.
     
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  2. Cally

    Cally Sand...sand... nothing but sand! Full Member

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    Ain't happening my kiwi brother :)

    I'd be very very very shocked i have to say.
    Just cant see it in any scenario.
     
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  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He has changed somewhat from what I saw in the Chisora fight. Problem is what we saw him do in that fight won't work against Joyce. Whipping in shots from range worked against the smaller Chisora as did he new use of his jab to distract his opponent to set up the right hand. But against the taller Joyce those tactics won't work.

    If Parker is to beat Joyce he will need to show us something new that he has never shown in any fight. Which is why I and others are picking Joyce.
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    All the above like Joyce had quick hands.
     
  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Correct but most would disagree

    But they also had slow hands which most would agree with

    Both are correct

    Slow-fast speed
     
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  6. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Active Member Full Member

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    I think those quick combinations involving uppercuts with some added bodywork could cause Joyce real problems. If Parker can time Joyce's jab it will make for an interesting fight.

    My big worry is if Joyce engages a negative grab n lean strategy like Junior Fa did, as Parker had no real answer to it.
     
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  8. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    When I see Joyce, the one thing he seems to rely on hugely is his CHIN.

    He gets smacked in the head so much, yet keeps coming. Is that supposed to be a good thing?
     
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  9. Cally

    Cally Sand...sand... nothing but sand! Full Member

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    Yeh, b,b,b,but parker has fast hands!

    :risas3:
     
  10. Finkel

    Finkel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Doesn't he have an abnormally thick skull? Some people have a speed advantage. Joyce has a chin advantage. Granted it can't be healthy long term.

    I think this tendency to take flush shots gives Parker an edge should it go to the cards. I'm not sure Parker stops Joyce, but he has very fast hands for a heavyweight; I see him lighting Joyce up much like Takam did. Difference being Parker has the durability to see the final bell.

    Parker on points for me. Though this being a Warren card, I wouldn't bet on it.
     
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  11. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He will suddenly become shot all at once. That chin will crack and he will become Danny Williams. Look for Wilder to be there now.
     
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  12. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Active Member Full Member

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    Seeing as this will probably go 12 rounds I'd favour the quicker puncher to rack up points over the guy who's gameplan is just taking punches to the face.
     
  13. titanic

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    I like them both but I also like going for the Underdog, Parker close SD
     
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  14. Brighton bomber

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    Problem Parker has is getting into range to land those uppercuts and body shots, one thing to do it to a 6ft 1 Chisora, another to do that do a 6ft 6 Joyce with a heavy, long jab. He's going to have to be far cuter to disguise his attacks and learn how to slip the jab.

    Parker's never been a counter puncher it's one of his biggest flaws, so even if he gets the timing of the jab he won't capitalise on it. We're going to need to see totally new skills from Parker to fight the type of fight you are suggesting. He not only will need to disguise his attacks, but learn to slip inside effectively, also learn to counter. We are talking about a huge overhaul in his skill set and I don't see that as likely, some improvements yes, but I'd be shocked to see this many.

    I don't think Joyce will jab and grab, he never has before and I actually think it's a skill that would greatly improve his effectiveness but he lacks this skill to frame, post, bar, collar tie, lean on, push and clinch to move opponents into his power shots. If he ever does learn that then the Foreman comparisons would finally be an accurate one and everyone in the division better watch out.
     
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  15. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    If Christian Hammer can do it

    I guess Joseph Parker can