Boxers who were better after a defeat and boxers who were broken after a defeat

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  1. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Glen Johnson after he loss to Bernard Hopkins
     
  2. Bronze Tiger

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    Marlon Starling said that after his first loss to Donald Curry..he learned not clown around in the ring so much lol
     
  3. Bronze Tiger

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    After Manny Pacquiao loss to Erik Morales …Freddy Roach decided to improve his right hand
     
  4. Alexandrow Vids

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    Meldrick Taylor after the Chavez fight was never the same.
    Could have been one of the best Boxers ever with ATG Speed.

    Richard Steele with this nonsense 5 Sec. to go stoppage destroys his Career.
     
  5. Jel

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    Bernard Hopkins became a better fighter after his first fight with Roy Jones. He improved substantially over the next few years.
     
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  6. NoNeck

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    He was worse after Ali, even worse after Young, worse than that after Holyfield…and was basically a poor man’s Oliver McCall after Morrison.
     
  7. greynotsoold

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    What damaged Taylor was the beating that Chavez put on him. It was Steele that made him look like a gargoyle and bleed internally.
     
  8. NoNeck

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    Odlanier Solis, despite the weight, had some good performances on the way up and looked good for three minutes against Vitali before twisting his knee.

    After that, his comeback went terribly and his conditioning got so bad that he had to quit against an old ass Tony Thompson in the rematch. It was bizarre.
     
  9. Thread Stealer

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    Even without the Chavez fight, I think he has a short stay at the top. Taylor left 140 after the first JCC fight and said he had trouble making weight. Given his stocky frame, I think it’s believable. He did fight once at 140 later in the JCC rematch, but I think he was desperate for a payday.

    He won a title at 147 against Aaron Davis in 91’, but the division was about to get loaded with talent. His stablemate Pernell Whitaker was about to enter the division. Tito Trinidad won a belt in 93’, and Ike Quartey won a title not too long after that. Cristano Espana was always going to be a very tough matchup due to his size and style.

    Taylor was kind of small for 147, had modest power, and was too brawl happy, which was always going to be an issue against those strong welterweights.
     
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  10. salsanchezfan

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    This. Any fighter who has virtually nio power but relies on contact and mixing it up to succeed probably has a short stay at the top by design. Especially when he's small for the weight (147, in this case). The strength and power differential was accentuated when he moved up. If you don't change your style somewhat to compensate for being smaller, enjoy your short stay at the top.
     
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  11. JohnThomas1

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    Thomas Hearns improved his game after losing to SRL, learning to clinch properly when hurt among other things.

    More attributable to career trajectory than the actual loss was Roberto Duran improving post De Jesus.

    One of the greatest examples is Joe Louis who learnt two huge lessons from Max Schmeling, one regarding attitude and another technique. Firstly he learned he wasn't good enough to get away with shyte dedication to training and secondly he learnt he had a substantial defensive weakness which he spent hours on with JB.
     
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