Today's boxers gas after 6 rounds, could never go 15!

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  1. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think anyone would argue, that all (or even most) fights back in the 20s were quiet sparring-like matches. Least of all where Greb was involved, as I simply don't think he had it in him to go easy on an opponent!

    That being said, I think we should be open to the possbility, that not all fights were great slam-bang affairs back then. The vast majority of the active boxers were journeymen, who would never amount to anything, or approach world class. Their ambition must likely have been to make a few extra bucks without getting too hurt - against opponents who, likewise, weren't all that keen on getting involved in all-out slugfests. After all, the next fight could be right around the corner, so why run the risk of getting injured?

    Sure, we can find lots of examples of great action-packed bouts back during Greb's time - but we can also find many fights, where the only ambition of the combatants was to make it to the final bell, with the least possible amount of effort. Sometimes the "action" was so slow, and the sham so obvious, that the ref threw them both out, declaring a NC. This didn't happen only to journeymen - but to quite a few top boxers as well.
     
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  2. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Too roided up to go 15. If they cut out the roids and focused on the **** Lance Armstrong was taking, they'd have much better stamina.
     
  3. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    I've always called Joshua "Bruno 2.0"
     
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  4. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I guess your stuck on watching modern fights and that's it. Too bad your missing out on so many great fights and fighters. Take your blinders off
     
  5. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agreed, I'm sure there were arrangements & agreements back then, but probably not nearly what the other poster was suggesting. I brought up Greb because he had been mentioned specifically.

    As far as slow action, there are loads of fights today that are slow as molasses! How do you think an old time ref would've handled the Fury-Klitschko bout? :)
     
  6. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've watched plenty, I'm just not blinded by nostalgia.
     
  7. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    No you just obviously think everything new is automatically better
     
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  8. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think people who use old fighters fight frequency as a reason as to why todays fighters are soft is being dishonest.
     
  9. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree, that Fury-Klitschko wasn't the most exciting HW bout I've ever seen - but was it really so bad, that the ref should have stepped in and declared a NC, because they weren't even trying? In my opinion a much worse fight was Klitschko-Povetkin - where the ref should have warned Wlad to stop the constant hugging/leaning-on, or face being disqualified!

    It's difficult to say, how common the "arrangements & agreements" were back in the day. Or how bad a fight had to be, before the ref declared a NC... since we have never seen (correct me if I'm wrong) a fight between two journeymen, that resulted in both contestants being booted for making no effort. From BoxRec we know, that back in the 20s, this happened quite often. But what it took for a ref to make such a call - or how much the boxers could get away with, in terms of going easy on each other, we just don't know.
     
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  10. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Not exactly. Joyce and Usyk are trained for 15 rounds and you can see that.
     
  11. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oh man the Wlad-Povetkin fight was horrible yeah! Wlad was so frustrating to watch, especially considering his enormous power & very good skills.
     
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  12. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If they have a pulse it would a good start
    The heavyweight scene is embarrassing
     
  13. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    The modern super heavyweights (accepted term from most boxing fans) appeared (doesn't matter exactly when, but in the 12 round era of boxing)...

    This leads me to the conclusion (hypothetically, theoretically):

    If professional boxing took place for 6-10 rounds, modern superweights would grow into even more modern hyperweights who would be as tall as basketball centers and weigh 300 pounds.
    Maybe I'm wrong; I'm not that knowledgeable about boxing.
     
  14. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agree!

    Based on a busier schedule and generally harder everyday circumstances, some unverifiable assumptions are sometimes made regarding the oldtimers - who are often seen as being fitter, tougher and more courageous than their modern counterparts. Which of course is pure speculation!
     
  15. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    They were fouling because they couldn’t box. Think even cruder versions of Orlando Salido. If those bums could throw a punch with technique and power then they wouldn’t be fighting 120 rounds.