Nope, sorry, GGG didn't win the first fight, and he definitely didn't win it wide. He was very lucky to get a draw. Neither fight was a robbery, and neither fight was won clearly by GGG. GGG "decrepit"? GGG looked to be in great shape, and performed well in the later rounds. A "decrepit" fighter doesn't do that. GGG fought far too cautiously for most of the fight, which was a strategy mistake, not a lack of the physical ability to do so. He showed how good he still was late in the fight, he just was no match for Canelo from the opening bell.
No one is interested in your ****ed up survey. As stated in thread , your lack of instruction has lead to many people put in wrong votes. Thread should be deleted if you can’t fix it. What the hell is 1,1:5,5 ?? It was three fight so where the hell did 5 come from?
Some places in the world use a comma as a decimal point instead of a period. So he's dividing up the wins into half wins and half losses. i.e. 2-0 Canelo with 1 draw would be 2.5 : 0.5. 1-0 Canelo with 2 draws would be 2.0 : 1.0. 2-0 GGG with 1 draw would be 0.5 : 2.5. 1-1-1 (or 0-0-3) would be 1.5 : 1.5, etc. As for the confusion over who was the left or the right, I'm guessing this was from GGG fans who think he won the trilogy so he should be listed first.
What did you vote for? I voted for 2.5 : 0.5, though could see 2.0 - 1.0 or maybe 1.5 - 1.5 if you're really being favorable to GGG. But to give GGG both of the first 2 fights or to argue he didn't lose the 3rd seems like a stretch.
GGG lost the third fight . But you can make a better case that #3 was a draw than the case for GGG not winning both of 1 and 2.
No you can't, unless you're a dope. Everyone knows that the 3rd fight was far more one-sided than either of the first 2 fights, regardless of who you scored the first 2 for.
No, it wasn't 't. The third fight was 7-5 (and if it were a 15 rounder, G would likely have taken it). The first two were at least 8-4 and 7-5 .
There's a reason why everyone watching it live was shocked at the scores of 7-5 and 8-4. No one watching it live saw it as a close fight, unless you were rooting hard for GGG or looking for reasons to give GGG rounds. I knew this could happen with the judges, and before the fight I literally warned everyone that this kind of thing could happen. Canelo proceeds to dominate GGG round after round and then judges had it close. And most people heard me say that before the fight and probably laughed and said to themselves "shadow is just trollling". But then that literally "happened" and now to save face you find yourself agreeing with the judges which is hilarious. The difference between the 3rd fight and the first 2 fights is that the first 2 fights were highly competitive round after round, where there was a genuine debate over who deserved to win. Even the people who scored the first 2 fights for GGG recognized how close and competitive they were. Of course over the years and especially after the rematch, the consensus view of the first fight changed, because people gave more credit to Canelo for "how he fought" in the rematch simply becaue he fought the way GGG said he should have fought the first time, and then started pretending like the first fight had to be a more a clear win for GGG. People's perceptions are affected by peer pressure and bias towards certain fighters. The difference is that the 3rd fight was not competitive like those first 2, it was all Canelo round after round and everyone saw that while watching it live. Even GGG fans who were optmistic that he had a chance couldn't believe how he was just giving away round after round like that. GGG was just standing there doing nothing and getting hit. For the judges, or anyone for that matter, to score it that close had to be rooting hard for GGG or looking for reasons to give GGG rounds. What we saw in the last 4 rounds was GGG doing better and making the rounds competitive, but was he actually winning rounds or were you just scoring anything close for him? You really have to ask yourself that question. To an unbiased scorer, Canelo won each of the first 8 rounds, and then the last 4 rounds GGG made it competitive and some of those last 4 could be scored for GGG, but none of those were clear GGG rounds. It's like you're handicapping your scores to give GGG rounds. The 3rd fight was a completely different kind of fight to the first 2, regardless of how close you scored it, just in terms of intensity, GGG's willingness to make it a fight, etc. And the irony is confirmed by those trying to use age as an excuse for why Canelo was able to win. GGG fans want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to act like GGG was so old at the same time still argue it was close. You gotta pick a lane in situations like this, and make up your mind. We heard for years that the Vegas judges are corrupt and are always favorable to Canelo, that you can't beat Canelo on the cards in Vegas. Then Bivol does it, and then people start moving the goal-posts and acting like it was one-sided. Then Canelo dominates GGG and te judges have it close, then people start saying the judges had it right. It's a riot how quickly fans will change their story in order to fit the agenda that suits them. Yeah for Canelo.
GGG definitely won the first fight wide. Definitely won the second fight close but clear and was definitely decrepit in the third fight
