Which boxer had the most losses on their record when they fought for the Lineal Heavyweight Title?

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  1. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Now that Warren has finally announced Fury v Chisora 3, I thought this would be a fun question.

    Chisora at 12 losses is in double figures, which is among the biggest numbers of last 50 years, but which fighter had the most losses on their record when they challenged for the Lineal crown?

    Also, which fighter had the most wins on their record?
     
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  2. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jack Roper

    had 40 losses
     
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    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    at his peak Muhammad Ali defend on consecutive fights Chuvalo 11 loss, Cooper 11 loss, London 13 loss

    so 12 loss not a real problem.
    more concerning of Chisora is age of 38 or 39 & the number of punches he takes.
     
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  4. Fergy

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    Good answer!!
     
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  5. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That was fast!

    Who had the most wins?
     
  6. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To be fair to Ali, he was back in the ring the next month after London and fought 5 times in total in '66.
    If you tag on Terrel or Patterson, either side to make a 12 month period he fought 6 times.

    So it's not quite the same, but I agree with you about Chisora's age.
     
  7. FastLeft

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    Young Stribling

    238 wins!
     
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    well yes heavyweight boxers used to fight back then
    nowadays they rarely step foot in a ring!

    Fury & Chisora actually are relatively frequently active this past year or 18 month period.
    compared to most ranked heavyweight this days
     
  9. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You are mistaken-Fury fought exactly once in the last year, & twice in the last 18 months.
    No way is that more active than even today's ranked HWs.

    Chisora fought twice in the last year.
    That is not frequent even for a contender-even modern ones.
    It sadly is about average though...
     
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  10. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You know, Fury vs AJ with an undercard match of Chisora vs Arreola isn't bad. Too bad that makes too much sense
     
  11. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think it's also interesting that Jim Braddock had 25 losses and 7 draws going in, and yet he WON the Lineal Heavyweight Championship from Max Baer.
     
  12. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You might like this, I put it together a few days ago using Boxrec (there might be the odd mistake, as it was quite late, hopefully not). Sometimes there were boxers with the same number of losses, so I chose of that group the fighter with the least wins:

    Challenger with most losses for each Lineal Heavyweight Champion

    Tyson Fury v Derek Chisora (33-12-0)

    Wladimir Klitschko v Alex Leapai (30-4-3)

    Lennox Lewis v Evander Holyfield (36-3-0)

    Hasim Rahman v Lennox Lewis (38-2-1)

    Shannon Briggs v Lennox Lewis (31-1-0)

    George Foreman v Jose Roman (44-7-1)

    Michael Moorer v George Foreman (72-4-0)

    Evander Holyfield v Bert Cooper (26-7-0)

    Riddick Bowe v Jesse Ferguson (19-9-0)

    James Douglas v Evander Holyfield (24-0-0)

    Mike Tyson v James Douglas (28-4-1)

    Michael Spinks v Steffen Tangstad (24-1-2)

    Larry Holmes v Lucien Rodriguez (35-7-1)

    Leon Spinks v Muhammad Ali (55-3-0)

    Muhammad Ali v Brian London (35-13-0)

    Joe Frazier v Terry Daniels (28-4-1)

    Sonny Liston v Floyd Patterson (38-3-0)

    Floyd Patterson v Tommy Jackson (29-5-1)

    Ingemar Johansson v Floyd Patterson (35-2-0)

    Rocky Marciano v Jersey Joe Walcott (49-19-1)

    Jersey Joe Walcott v Ezzard Charles (74-6-1)

    Ezzard Charles v Lee Oma (64-27-3)

    Joe Louis v Jack Roper (64-40-11)

    Jim Braddock v Joe Louis (31-1-0)

    Max Baer v Jim Braddock (50-25-7)

    Primo Carnera v Tommy Loughran (112-24-7)

    Jack Sharkey v Primo Carnera (48-3-0)

    Max Schmeling v Young Stribling (238-13-17)

    Gene Tunney v Tom Heeney (32-8-5)

    Jack Dempsey v Bill Brennan (60-13-8)

    Jess Willard v Frank Moran (31-10-5)

    Jack Johnson v Fireman Jim Flynn (59-15-20)

    Tommy Burns v Jack Palmer (23-8-2)

    Marvin Hart v Tommy Burns (30-3-7)

    James J. Jeffries v Bob Fitzsimmons (60-8-14)

    Bob Fitzsimmons v Lew Joslin (debut)

    James J. Corbett v Bob Fitzsimmons (53-7-14)

    John L. Sullivan v Paddy Ryan* (debut) / v William Samuells (debut)
    *bare-knuckle American heavyweight champion
     
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  13. FastLeft

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    assuming he fights Chisora in December
    is 2 fights in 12
    & 3 fights in 15 months

    which would be relatively frequent
    Wilder is 1 fight a year
    Usyk is 1 fight a year
    Whyte, Ruiz, etc
     
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    he fights in December then Fury becomes-for the first time maybe ever-relatively active for a top fighter.
     
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