What would be done about the end of the Buchanan vs Duran bout if they fought today?

No DQ some time given to Buchanan to recover then he would be asked to continue

 

Well you'd hope it was an honest mistake. As i said earlier tho the ref was certainly lenient to Roberto's fouls. Thankfully Duran was winning by a mile.

 

Sometimes you get a ref who lets the rough stuff go and favors a mauler and sometimes you don’t. Duran also got a favorable referee in Carlos Padilla for the first Leonard match — when they were tied up he slapped the gloves to free them rather than calling for a break and allowed Duran to maul and brawl there too. Nothing to see, just different styles of refereeing … in both cases I think the refs would say they wanted to let the boys fight and sort it for themselves.

Other times a mauler-brawler gets a ref who wants to keep things ‘clean’ and it’s hard on them to fight their fight the way they want. You pays your money and you takes your chance, so to speak. Referees are like a box of chocolates — you never know what you’re going to get.

 

Ey oop Mr Butt

 

Very fair assessment i must say.

 

Buchanan chased a world title shot on his terms for years.
Duran was supposedly asked his toughest oppone

Kenny wanted another title shot against Duran and wanted it on his terms, which top fighter doesn't.
He entered the fight against Suzuki with an injured eye picked up in sparring.
Then Suzuki thumbed him in the 6th round leaving him sightless on one side and unable to land with his right hand.
Kenny did a lot of his fighting on the road after falling out with the BBBC, they should have got behind him.

 

There was a little British band around his time, The Rolling Stones, who had a song: You Can’t Always Get What You Want.

He was offered a rematch. He didn’t take it. Just because he wanted to dictate terms doesn’t mean he was going to get to — he wasn’t champ anymore. When he did get another shot, he had to go to Tokyo so he wasn’t dictating terms there either.

It’s a lot easier when you have a manager and a promoter but Ken was his own man and wanted to do it his way, without either. He did fine, but not having those meant he was going to have to take what he could get.

 

His former manager, Eddie Thomas got frozen out by the London cartel because they wanted control of Buchanan.
The result was Buchanan had to fight in small halls almost like amateur boxers, for small purses.
The chip on his shoulder helped him, he was fearless.
I agree on the managerless bit although it worked for Sugar Ray Robinson.
Kenny had his dad, Tom, in the corner, and we all know how seldom that relationship goes down.

 

"Or SOMETHING to that effect! ...

I knew there was Strong Statements made, but couldn't remember verbatim, what exactly all these years later... so I have just Watched it now...

the Commentary STATEMENTS - English too

Rd 1, & 3, Turpin not doing much...

Rd 4, RR having the better of these early rounds,
Rd 5, RR ahead, Turpin will have to do more

Rd 6, RR landing the harder, faster, more effective punches, Turpin seems to be waiting

Rd 7, Turpin needs to exchange...

Rd 8, RR too quick... Turpin still fresh & strong

Rd 9, Turpin not quick enough, out punched

Rd 10, Clearly visably ahead & leathal, the finish... "RR still on top" ... CRACK! enslaught, Stoppage.

3 times it is stated , " it's close" and Turpin still strong, up untill the middle rounds... and thats it.

I grew up hearing the same thing, that it was close and RR had to finish it fast owing to his cut, though when I watched, there was NO Question as to the dominace & outcome. CLEARLY VISABLE.

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Hi turpinr how’s life

 

Turpin losing the first 8 rounds and needing a knockout is NOT 'something to the effect' of being level on the referee's scorecard, and one and two rounds behind on the judges' scorecards just three minutes later.

Instead of relying on the judgement of officials who were there and saw the whole fight, you're basing everything you've said on highlights and commentary that was added decades later.

 

I love Kenny. But he threw 2 punches clearly after the bell rang to end the round. That is why Roberto threw the ball punch.

 

Classic case of: If you don’t wanna play, don’t get in the sandbox.

Ken got a little frisky because he was losing and let that frustration out after the bell. Roberto wasn’t going to take that without retaliation. Duran cashed his check and gave him a receipt.

 

An automatic rematch would have been called for in modern times, a neutral location, no boring as Heck trilogies. I am like this, if you cannot get it right, then maybe you never will, it just holds up other worthy challengers. A referee that is neutral, picked by the WBA committee, of course 15 rounds by 1972 standards, even the gloves agreed to by both camps.

 

Ok, feet up now, took early retirement 3 years ago
How're you ?