Who was the dirtiest sunofagun who ever boxed?

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  1. Mastrangelo

    Mastrangelo Active Member Full Member

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    Funnily, He once even busted up referees nose with his head by accident. I believe it was in the Mario Veit fight.
    Yeah, Kabary Salem was my pick here.
     
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  2. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the Boxing Boards and Governing Bodies, especially Britain, US Mob and Germany...
     
  3. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    I personally think the dirtiest fighter I've ever seen was Andre Ward
    He knew & used every dirty trick in the book to win fights. From battering Kovalev's testes the whole fight long to head butting & cutting several opponents. Only wanted to fight in Oakland but couldn't even sell out his hometown arena. Somehow he got away with it too
     
  4. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    My top five are:

    1) Gene Fullmer
    2) Eugene Fullmer
    3) Gene (Headbutt) Fullmer
    4) Gene (Rabbit Punch) Fullmer
    5) Jack Dempsey (I just re-watched the Firpo fight)
     
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  5. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ward was incredible dirty fighter

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  6. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Knew someone would say him. He's not nearly as dirty as people act like. High IQ, rough fighter. Not nearly as egregious as other fighters in history.
     
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  7. C.J.

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    Ive seen him use every dirty trick in the book in fights but never got DQ'd How did he avoid that. Only fight at home
     
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  8. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I bought the video of his fight with Elorde, I believe, and Saddler stopped him on cuts and I can't say that he ever hit him with his gloves.
     
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  9. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Duran was guilty of infractions here and there - maybe I haven’t watched enough of his fights but perhaps the dirtiest effort I’ve seen from Roberto was the MOORE fight - Duran aided and abetted by an ignorant ref.

    The irony often is that many fighters whose skills are more than sufficient as to NOT require foul tactics are among the worst practitioners - and their very rep., as great fighters, allows them to get away with fouls a lot more than the average bear.

    When you haven’t got a lot else going for you, your fouling would stand out like a pimple on a pumpkin - see Wepner’s savant application of his obviously well practiced rabbit punches vs Ali.

    There is another thread re Duran’s blatant low blow on Ken Buchanan. Allowance of up to 5 minutes for recovery from such deliberate fouls was referenced.

    As guys we ALL know that’s an arbitrarily nominated recovery time - depending on the severity of the punch, 5 minutes may not be sufficient time for the nuts to descend back down from the abdomen into their original, resting, nut sack location. There’s no place like “home”.

    For fighters who have lost due to being unable to continue after a low blow - it’s seems contrary that they can be ultimately deemed to have lost due to what was a foul blow in the first instance.

    It was also mentioned that Duran was leading ANYWAY. That has or shouldn’t have anything to do with the price of fish.

    A DQ worthy fouls is a DQ worthy foul - notwithstanding who is winning and who is losing - and if the perpetrator is actually winning, - if we’re going to apply any context - it makes the foul appear that much more unnecessary.
     
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  10. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hopkins was the most skilled dirty fighter. He knew where the ref was at all times…now dirty dirty that prob belongs to fools who padded gloves with metal objects and nails. Margarito us and always will be a scum bag.
     
  11. Mike_b

    Mike_b Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've once heard by a hater that SOG was SOAB apparently because he was upset with his roughhouse tactics. The thing is with Andre, he only had one arm (plagued with injuries) he was an over achiever. You guys are right about Hopkins on 2 things, he always embellished or sold his injuries, and also he knew where the ref was at all times lol. I'm surprised there aren't that many huggers or holders on this list. I was surprised there was no golota, or Haney haters. I'd also think John Ruiz should rank up there, a tough style for a tough guy. Agapito Sanchez (rest in peace) was very dirty against Manny Pacquiao, he gave him some nasty scar tissue over his eyes from headbutte
     
  12. Boxing GOAT

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    Zivic had a reputation as a dirty fighter, but he insisted he was returning fire with fire. Greb had a dirty reputation too. In my lifetime the honor goes to Ward, Hopkins, Golota, and Horn.
     
  13. Richard M Murrieta

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    I talked to older fight fans who insisted that Rocky Marciano was one of the dirtiest fighters in the business, he used to use his head to butt his opponents, use his elbows, and hit on the breaks.
     
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  14. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Yeah, there are several still photos that captured these very infractions.

    Rocky often said he didn’t remember committing these fouls - however, the distinct memories of his opponents weren’t similarly impaired.

    Maybe Jim Flynn is King of the Headbutts - he gave Johnson a good taste of his own melon.

    How cool was Lil Arthur taking those? Very cool. Smiling Jack just proceeded to beat the sh*t out of Flynn via means not so foul. Johnson doused the fire on Jim’s Choo Choo train.
     
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  15. Frankus

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    I was about to mention Sadler. Good one mate.