last time i listen to the esb 'experts'!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Relentless, Jul 28, 2008.


  1. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I think you're missing the subtlties of boxing semantics. What we saw in Cotto/Margarito was one of those occasions when a great boxer lost to a great fighter. Cotto is the technically superior boxer. Tony is the relentless fighter who beat him.
     
  2. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    No I understand it. I feel Cotto fought the wrong fight which lost him the fight.


    IF Margos plan was to tire him out by letting Cotto hit him cleanly a bunch of times, then congrats to margo.
     
  3. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Eze, don't downplay what Margarito did apart from take every punch Cotto threw. He busted Cotto up badly!
     
  4. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    margo also outworked cotto to the body.
     
  5. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    Some people exaggerate 24 hours a day,7 days a week, on here.
     
  6. Barber-ian

    Barber-ian Active Member Full Member

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    By saying that Cotto fought the wrong fight takes Margarito's acheivement out of the equation.

    I'm not sure Cotto could have fought any fight and won last night. It wasn't just Margarito's heart and chin that won. It was his tireless workrate, his determination to go to the body, his swarming, smothering attack and his relentless pressure that made Cotto unable to breathe.

    Boxing isn't just about speed, technical skills and flashy shots. Margarito proved that on Saturday.
     
  7. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    margo is the better fighter. he proved it in the ring and no number of excuses from any hater can change that. as someone pointed out, he may not be a better boxer but he is the better fighter at 147. if boxing were a dance cotto would win every time but since it involves a little bit of fighting, guys like margo have a chance.
     
  8. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I guess if thats how you want to put it.

    I dont mean downplay Margos victory. I was amazed he walked through so many shots and continued to come forward. But I was very dissapointed Cotto had no body attack.
     
  9. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    In science, when results don't match expectations, you change your expectations, because the results are the results.
     
  10. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    yea but in science you also have to do multiple experiments or else the results might be skewed due to error deviation from the mean. :D
     
  11. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Still, eze, wants to call Cotto the better boxer/fighter regardless of the results. I think the results have to stand at the moment. Not like there is much question about the results in this one.:D
     
  12. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    True. But I hope you see where I am coming from when I say that.
     
  13. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    I hope you realize Margo's will over came Cotto's skill. It sounds like your down playing Margo's win. He out worked Cotto and punished his body with thudding shots all night long.
     
  14. Hermit

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    I do in one respect. Cotto seemed to be the 'cleaner boxer', but in a fight, there is more to consider. Kelly Pavlik is the home town boy so I hear the same criticisms of him over and over, yet he keeps winning even though he is an 'inferior boxer' according to many on this board.
     
  15. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    That's what I am saying. Cotto's skill > Margos. But Margos will, heart and determination won him that fight.

    I give Margo 150% credit for the win. He punished Cotto into submission.