Benn admits to two failed drug tests

What are your thoughts on this:

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Conor has always appeared to have a bit of aa chip on his shoulder.
Maybe its because he is the son of Nigel, as he has made thing in the past about "no one works harder in the gym than me"
Well its easier to work harder in the gym when you don't have to hold down another job when you are a prospect !

And I find it annoying that Team Benn seem so offended that the public are upset by this and that we should [resume him innocent rather than guilty.......well I'm sorry Conor but this sport is riddled with drug cheats and poor testing and beatable testing, and as we the public effectively pay your wages we are entitled to whatever view we like.

The key question that never appears to have been asked (or not allowed to have been asked) is
"Were B samples requested immediately after receiving notification of each failed test?"

Based on recent Hearn interviews the answer would appear to be no? So the next question is why not?

There is a complete lack of "reading the room" in this saga from both Benn and Hearn

There is a failed test, so everything should be put on hold until the test is investigated and a conclusion reached, it should not simply be put to the promoters and fighters as to whether they are happy to continue. And I don't care what happened in the past, if we continue to do things like they have always been done then we continue to be a terrible sport with terrible procedures.

 

Watched it all - interesting take and food for thought. But:

1. Boxers don't take an IQ test alongside a drugs test - stupid is not a defence
2. This was a unique training camp in which Benn seriously needed to bulk up. By definition he was doing things for this fight in extremity of things he would usually do for fighting at 147, legally or otherwise.

Potentially, either he took more PEDs than usual - and the process got out of control resulting in panic measures - or resorting to PEDs for the first time to maintain muscle mass at 157 and was ill-advised. Or this dude is right at it's a result of contamination. I'm not convinced and, anyway, the contamination defence might mitigate punishment but strict liability maintains guilt...

 

There's still more to this than meets the eye.
It makes absolutely no sense for him to agree to VADA testing and then take a drug that is known to stay in your system for an age.
I'll be interested to see how this plays out. There is history of legal food supplements being contaminated in other sports. That said, the onus is on Benn to try to prove why he tested positive.

 

What USADA says about clomiphene:

Is clomiphene prohibited in sport?
Yes, under the World Anti-Doping Agency Prohibited List, clomiphene is prohibited at all times as an anti-estrogenic substance in the S4 Category of Hormone and Metabolic Modulators.

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So yeah, it might have been a contaminate... in a black market product designed for 'performance enhancing use'...

 

Doesn’t pretty much everyone claim contamination when they fail a test though? I can’t recall any boxers off the top of my head who have admitted to PED usage right after failing a test (not including instances where they may admit to it years later when they are retired).

 

big baby miller should go cuddle benn and give him some advice

 

Yeah.

Not sure if it was Lance Armstrong, or one of the many track and field athletes caught doping, who said the only course of action after a failed test was: 'deny, deny, deny'...

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He can't yet claim innocence but the board need to answer questions.

Why did the board not do anything about these tests?

Why was it left 3 days before the fight to come to a decision to sanction the fight?

 

The corruption with these 'brand' fighters is through the roof, especially in the UK, where the media companies invest absurd money in them, and especially with SKY.

AJ, Whyte, Eubank Jr, now Benn Jr, all exposed crooked brands in recent years.

Here's an example Groves revealed in the 'Boxing Life Stories' interview. Eubank Jr, the brand equivalent of Benn Jr., a completely overrated fighter that nevertheless brings massive money in due to the 'brand'.

There was a fourth judge in the Groves Eubank fight who was to decide the winner if the fight was a draw, so the Super Six could have a result.

That judge picked EUBANK JR as the winner.

It was obvious in the build-up that Eubank Jr was the commercial brand they wanted to win, and the close cards, but the fact that the fourth judge picked him as the winner showed 100% there was corruption at work. If the fight was a draw, and the judges were trying to get it there and would have if Groves wasn't so dominant, Groves was never getting through to the final.

 

The contamination b.c. is getting old. It's pretty much only excuse this guys have, so they can say o i never take drugs, it was from contamination.
There is exactly 0% chance to pop up for PEDS, when in reality you haven't taken them, and let's say through contamination. Exactly ZERO % chance.

Every promoter knows his guys, and they know this and that and that and that, and 99% are on PEDS, and they also have a pre-made story if someone pop out dirty. So they have all the excuses already in the wall for them. They also have lawyers on standby, etc.

It's the same story with Canelo, absolutely the same story with Fury, and same story with Benn.
Fury team manage to do best, cause they act fast, took a legal case and shut the mouth of potential leak and so. And then it come so much later, and UKADA was with tied hands pretty much, cause there was a legal case.
You can see this s**** only in Boxing.
If you pop dirty, you should be banned, 2 years at least, simple as that. No excuse should matter, and there should not be a case where you could make a lawsuit against the doping agency and tied their hands.
But as we know, Boxing it's corrupt to it's root, so there will always be room for getting away with silly tactics.
Oh and i forget to mention Whyte, who literally get away with nothing, again with a legal case against the doping agency.
This agency doesn't have much capital, and they can allow to lose a s***** because of X or Y factor, and there is million factors involved in this.

As far as why he poped, there could be million reasons for that. From forgetting to take something to cover the ****, to his body not react properly, to not taking the masking agent on time, or an unexpected doping test at the wrong time. As well as decide to go on either heavier dosage or add more stuffs to it's cycle.

Also there is a zero chance that a dirty fighter, like all of this, aka Miller, Fury, Canelo, Whyte, Benn and so on, once being caught, then decide to fight clean. Once you being on the juice and knowing how much effect your performance, there is zero chance to leave it behind and fight clean. Absolutely ZERO !!!

 

Hmm... Are we sure Benn didn't just have dinner with Bill Clinton???

 

Or its his first fight under VADA testing which is why he was caught.

 

What annoys me the most with Benn is he's acting as though he's entitled to get away with this and it's everyone else's fault.

He knows he's took PED's but he's blaming everyone else for him being caught.