What is the difference between a jab from Carlos Monzon and Muhammad Ali?

It's why the weight classes were invented Mark.

 

What about the difference between a jab from Muhammad Ali and a widdle-bitty t-rex armed Roberto Duran?

 

Ali also usually carried a height and reach advantage in most of his contests.

 

Ali’s reach in the vast majority of sources is 80”

 

It’s only reasonable to compare their jabs in relative terms, not in absolute terms.

I imagine that, to a fellow MW, Monzon’s jab on connection, felt comparable to how Ali’s felt to a HW. Perhaps a bit harder though and in overall technical terms, perhaps a bit more multi purposed - it’s varietous use driven by a very heavy ring IQ.

Monzon was very deceptive in terms of speed and power. One of my favourites clips - Carlos hitting the heavy bag.

Obviously he maybe letting go in the training enviro a bit more than in actual combat - unharnessed from his in ring disciplines - but boy, that’s some power there and plenty of snap in that jab. Carlos def. doesn’t look so slow in this clip. Go to 6:05.

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Go to 1:07, Ali's reach is measured by Dundee and Cosell on television. It is 78". Ali might be the only boxer that has had his reach measured in public. There is no doubt about Ali's reach.

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On some of the TOTPs for Liston vs Ali listed Ali as 79”.

I assume them to be older, more original TOTPs.

Other TOTPs for the same fight listed Ali as 82” - a likely inflation to bridge the gap between Ali’s actual reach and that of Liston’s commonly listed 84”.

On that clip I recall someone mumbled something like 78 1/2” or such - could’ve been Dundee. So 79” sounds fair for a round up.

Prior to facing Terrell, Dundee claimed Ali was still growing and getting up to the 6’4” mark. LOL, sure Angelo - again, likely an attempt to falsely diminish the actual height difference.

Monzon was like a true 5’ 11 1/2” - the tallest height he was inflated to was 6’2”.

If his reach was 76” as often listed (and his arms did appear long) that’s quite a reach relative to his true height.

Of course Monzon knew exactly how to use his reach and height advantages to the last fraction.

 

Looking at the way Ali is regarded on here by some in various threads and of course it’s all opinion, you wonder though how he ever won a few fights never mind attain what he did!!

 

And not to mention in this fictional bout created by you, Carlos Monzon was a tall 160 lb champion, Muhammad Ali was a tall heavyweight who weighed over 200 lbs. Monzon was not dumb enough to jump weights, a great fighter knows his own limitations.

 

Monzon had a 76 inch reach.

 

When Monzon was in his prime, a prime Jose Napoles the Welterweight king tried adding the 160lb title to his list of achievements and failed.
At 175lb and a beast of a light heavy Bob Foster was well out of his depth when challenging Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier.
Carlos Monzon and Marvin Hagler both had the sense not to move up in weight and I respect them all the more for their long stays as champion at one weight.