Peak Cleveland Williams v Champ Jersey Joe Walcott

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Peak Cleveland WIlliams v Champ Jersey Joe Walcott

  1. Williams by Dec

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  2. Williams by KO

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  3. Walcott by Dec

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  4. Walcott by KO

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  1. CrouchStanceBoxing

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    Lyle entered a Denver hospital Nov. 18 with stomach pains and died eight days later after a stomach abscess became septic, said Sharon Dempsey, his sister.
    I know very well what i'm talking about and i just reinforced the evidence to support my side of the story which is that he died from wounds he received at a young age in prison unlike williams who died in a car accident.
     
  2. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    NO you didn’t. That’s a serious delusion.

    Lyle passed from a SUDDEN stomach ailment - sudden being the operative word, which I highlighted to you previously.

    It wouldn’t be sudden if it related to pre-existing and ongoing health impairments. And, for you to make your point, you would also have to prove that those pre-existing issues (if any) actually related to the injuries sustained in the stabbing event so many years ago.

    Not holding my breath on that one because you don’t even know how old Ron was when he was stabbed.

    And it is very ignorant to bypass Williams own state of steady disrepair in terms of health as at the time of the car accident when 4 years younger than Lyle - disrepair that can be confidently linked back to the gun shot injuries he sustained.
     
  3. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    So which one of you is he?

    Or, god forbid, are we talking a Holy Trinity type thing, tri-personalities sourced from the one deranged mind? Hold your water child!!
     
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  4. FrankinDallas

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    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Walcott have quite a few early losses because he was extremely poor and nearly starving at some points? In fact in some of his early fights he weighed as little as 165 pounds. That may account for some early losses.
     
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  5. klompton2

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    He weighed 165 when he turned pro... at 16. It was the depression, most fighters were from the lower rungs of society and struggling. That wasnt unique to Walcott.
     
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  6. JohnThomas1

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    He is all seeing....but is he all hearing?!?!?!?!?!
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

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    Ahhh the good old days.

    In grade 5 one year they had a nurse come in to check everyone's spine alignment. It was a statewide school initiative, possibly even Australia wide. You went into a room, stripped to your jocks then touched your toes while she looked from behind at your spine. All of us early birds came out telling everyone you had to take everything off.

    Let me tell you there were a few sets of knees knocking together entering that room.
     
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  8. JohnThomas1

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    We are roll as one pal!

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  9. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    "He didnt lose to anyone after being shot that he would have beaten before and he didnt beat anyone before that he wouldnt have beaten after."
    He didn't say this?

    So, I take it you agree that on a post-shooting Williams beating Terrell, Daniels, and drawing with Machen? Jesus you guys should join his Fanclub. Williams was an elite contender in the 60s, but he wasn't the superman you and Klomp make him out to be.
     
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  10. Pugguy

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    Lol, nice prank!

    Formidable!

    Excellent movie btw, McAvoy did a terrific job.
     
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  11. FrankinDallas

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    Weren't all the kids in Australia xrayed and some became sterile? It was supposed to be fun to see bones but it all went wrong.
     
  12. JohnThomas1

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    Not in my era, apparently :yikes:

    I've never actually heard that story tbh. Would have been start of the 80's when we were getting visually checked.
     
  13. FrankinDallas

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