Can this near perfect middleweight boxer beat Prime Muhammad Ali?

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  1. Ironfox222

    Ironfox222 Member Full Member

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    A guy named Joe Johnson is 30 years old 6ft 160lbs with 75 inch reach
    he has this specific attributes from boxers in their prime

    Floyd Mayweather Jr - Defensive skills
    Sugar Ray Robinson - Offensive Skills
    Bernard Hopkins - Ring IQ
    Marvin Hagler - Mental Toughness
    Julian Jackson - Power
    Meldrick Taylor - Handspeed
    Roy Jones Jr. - Reflexes
    Jake LaMotta - Chin and Durability
    Joe Calzaghe - Stamina and Cardio

    Can this guy beat Prime Muhammad Ali in a boxing match? or is the weight and size gap too much for Joe?
     
  2. Scott Cork

    Scott Cork Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You could have just said Tyson Fury
     
  3. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Muhammad would stop him.
     
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  4. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Tyson Fury hasn't been a middle weight since he was 6 years old. LOL
     
  5. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    As Ali said . “If you even dream of beating me, you'd better wake up and apologize."
     
  6. Sallywynder

    Sallywynder Member banned Full Member

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    Bob Foster. Arguably ATG at LH... Got murdered by Ali.

    Aint no one under Alis weight surviving a beating that Ali dished out to Cleveland Williams... no one.
     
  7. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Like people that thiut RJJ could beat LL
     
  8. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think RJJ could beat LL but at some point there is a diminishing return on weight. A crappy cruiserweight will beat a world class minimum weight, but you can't just strap gloves on a 300lbs athlete and expect him to beat Usyk or Wilder.
     
  9. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury hasn't weighed 160 since he was 8.
     
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  10. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury would toy with Ali...

    Ala Wlad

    He may do demolition job on him ala Wilder 2/3
     
  11. BCS8

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    The problem with a middleweight beating Ali is that Ali had really fast hands and feet. It's like the Bivol problem for Canelo magnified. Even if the MW has Julian Jackson's power, which is devastating at 160, it becomes merely average-ish when at heavyweight and below average when compared to Foreman and Shavers. Ali is going to walk through most of what this guy can throw and in return Ali's power, which is at best average when at heavyweight, is going to feel closer to Julian Jackson when against a middleweight. The fact that Ali's hands are so fast is the killer, because he will have the speed to be able to land even if the other guy has really good defence, since Ali had no problem in letting his punches go in flurries.
     
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  12. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member Full Member

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    I reckon one of Fury's morning constitutionals is close to the middleweight limit ;)
     
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  13. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    God Give me strength.!!!