Sonny Liston of the First Ali Fight vs Peak Rocky Marciano

Do you seriously think that Marcianos fouling was not cheating?

 

Did Marciano ever cheated in any fight?
Liston did land low blows too.

 

Did you ever watched when Marciano fighted Co ck ell?

 

You stated Marciano would NEVER cheat, you seriously need to watch boxing and learn about the fighters and boxing history

Did Liston land low blows, distinct possibility that every boxer has hit below the belt.

 

Did he low blow anyone or use illegal substances like Liston?
I do not think so.
When you mentioned Marciano did you know that Nigel Ben,LaMotta,Duran...did much more rabbit punches than Marciano?

 

Was he ever caught or seen cheating anyone except his wife?
I dont think so.
Until you post someone to prove that story, please watch what you write.

 

I think i will leave any proof for you to read when you study boxing history, particularly regarding Mr Marciano, as Seamus advised, have a look at the Marciano vs Cockell fight and read the reports from those who watched it live.

 

I dont wanna study anything until you post some proves that Marciano cheated or was caught cheating.
He was not unlike Liston who low blow and used illegal substances.

 

Dont see the point of the thread actually? a past it vs a prime ? 34 yrs old Liston loses .... 59 60 Liston wins ... hope that helps

 

Liston's best chance is early in the fight when he is fresh. If it goes even into the mid rounds he's probably gonna lose Maybe he will overpower Rocky and it wouldn't matter that Sonny really wasn't prepared for a tough fight that one night in Miami...
He was in such outstanding condition his best thinking was to blind his opponent in 4th? 5th? Couldnt seriously hurt a blinded fighter. Living in Vegas aged him in dog years.

 

That's possible. It's not a crime to be past prime. You have to be in fighting condition though. You can't be old, out of condition and not barely fought in the previous 2 or 3 years.
Just looking at his performance that night he didn't have the stomach for combat.

 

Liston would get destroyed. Liston was out of shape and unmotivated going into the the first Ali fight.

All the motivation, hunger, and rage Liston once had when he was a challenger died after he crushed Patterson twice and the money started rolling in.

Liston would need to be in top form and at his best to have a chance at beating Marciano.

 

Not for nothing Rocky Marciano might have been the dirtiest fighter in the history of boxing. He's at least in the discussion. Hitting after the bell, on the break, low and while it is nice that afterwards Rocky says they were unintentional it doesn't negate the damage.

 

Marciano hit Moore and Cockell after the bell,he hit Cockell low ,butted him and hit him when he was on the floor,He hit Lastarza low twice in one fight,there's plenty more that's just for starters.
2nd Lastarza fight

• Marciano was a 4 to 1 betting favorite.
• Life magazine reported: "Trying to knock the challenger out with one punch, the 29-year-old Marciano was over-eager and awkward. He lunged, butted, hit below the belt, on the break and after the bell. Once, he swung so wildly that he missed and slipped clumsily to the canvas. Outboxing the champion and avoiding his blows,

The Red Applegate fight Apllegate was 11-14-2.
This was a bruising, crowd-pleasing battle. Marciano won handily enough but failed to even knock down his opponent, who had fought only twice in the previous two years. Applegate's best round was the third, which the referee also took from Marciano because of a low punch.
Marciano also butted Walcott in their 1 st but came off the worse for it.

Convinced now?

 

But did he low blow someone so much like Liston did to Dejohn so man was down because his balls hurt that much and he called Liston *****?
Did he cheated with illegal substances?
Nope.
Marciano was 10 times more clean than Liston.
Every fighter was dirty including LaMotta,Bowe,Tyson,Duran...but did anyone knocked man down with low blow and used illegal substances?