Tyson Luke Fury vs. Dereck Chisora III & Daniel Dubois vs. Kevin Lerena RBR.

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  1. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    We have a fight between two of the biggest characters and most charismatic fighters in the entire sport. Both are funny in their own way. Both undefeated. Both current champs. For all the marbles. The fight sells itself. Fury could've gone about this is a very different way. He could still trash talk and sell the fight and make it fun.
     
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  3. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    Geezus.. can you be quiet about how you don’t know anything about boxing? We get it, you don’t understand styles/context/the sport. We hear you, now shhhhh
     
  4. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Him and his whole family are full of scumbags. I never liked trash talkers, and fake persona people. And he is the biggest of them all.
    Also the excuses with the surgery, like bro, so fake ....
     
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  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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  6. Goran_

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    I'm watching Froch vs Pascal again it's a good antidote to what I just saw.. fk me it never gets old....
     
  7. DoubleG95Fanatic

    DoubleG95Fanatic Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The guy literally went life and death with him like 18 months ago.
     
  8. Goran_

    Goran_ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    give up.. it was a shut out after the first three or 4 rounds.. different levels , it was just his physicality he was struggling with
     
  9. spravedlivylev

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    No, that's not what happened. Krassyuk explained it several times.

    The Joshua fight was originally scheduled for 21st July and a possible undisputed against Fury for December. It was always the plan that Usyk would have 5 months between defending his belts twice (that's something Fury has never done, btw - two title fights in the span of less than half a year). But since the Joshua rematch was postponed by a month for late August, the proposed undisputed fight had to be postponed as well. But January was out of the question, purely for financial reasons. You can't have a big PPV fight in January when people are all skint due to the holidays - any event manager can tell you that staging a big sporting event or a concert for January is the worst idea ever from a financial point of view.

    So the fight was eventually pushed to February. That's it - no conspiracies, no shady business. The postponed Joshua fight set these things in motion, it's as simple as that. Fury and his team knew all about this, but Fury still decided to duck Usyk. It was clear that he would claim he couldn't fight Usyk in February/March after the Chisora fight. I've been telling this for weeks that this would be Fury's screenplay. Having a light sparring session against a 39-year-old plodder whom he already beat twice, then find an excuse after the Chisora fight not to face Usyk in February/March. The way Fury is managing his career is rather predictable once you see through all the nonsense he keeps talking about.
     
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  10. CST80

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    Fury lost a round to Chisora today, Usyk lost a round to a fresher Chisora two years ago, and that was without the benefit of incessant leaning that Fury should've been docked a point for, to wear him out.
     
  11. uppakut

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    Context my friend! Fury fought him after he fought 2 fights with parker and a fight with pulev, all three of those fights were tough 12 rounders
     
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  12. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly. We need that post in this thread:
    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/fury-once-again-quack-quack-quack.696062/#post-22059645
    Be kind and let a mark in there, so Fury fangirls to have more nightmares.
     
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  13. Goran_

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    ya but Usyk was in 4th gear Fury was in 1st here.. admittedly the Ukrainian was still bedding in at heavyweight though , but let's not forget Fury has toyed with Dereck Chisora in all 3 fights.. the second one was a masterclass and he beat him down from the SP stance.. whichever way you cut it when Fury is on form and up for a fight he is special also .. and for all his bravado he knows full well the Ukrainian will bring the best out in him.. I can't wait for it I hope it gets made and I'm favouring Fury but I wouldn't be surprised or upset about usyk winning.. politics aside hes a class act.. & ya Fury ties his opponents up a lot but that's common at HW.. Klitschko, Lewis, Ali.. all the greats did it.. Tua, Povetkin, Frazier fights for example..
     
  14. Col Mortimer

    Col Mortimer The question isn't indiscreet.The answer could be Full Member

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    It's defo a bit warm with passion here in the rbr tonight.

    I've just turned the central heating off and popped open the living room windows.

    Lol, gotta love ESB, it's entertaining and heats your house up for free.

    I'll throw another log on the rbr fire and say as of right now I think Joyce beats both Fury and Usyk.....
     
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  15. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    More than anything, Fury wants to be loved. It's hardly surprising adulation is addictive for a man from a community for which it's still acceptable to vilify in the UK. Fury finds people like Wilder much easier to deal with. Wilder is the pantomime villain; he's no threat to Fury's anointed heroism. Boxers like Chisora and Whyte are no threat, so he makes them 'mates' and beats their asses.

    Usyk doesn't fit into any of these simplistic narratives. He's a threat who isn't a villain, isn't a 'mate' and isn't the court jester (AJ). Fury can't define the roles for this play. And being the hero needs these roles to be clearly defined. He can't pigeon-hole Usyk and it fries his brain. So he falls back on a default setting - mocking banter. It's self-comforting, really...