Tyson Luke Fury vs. Dereck Chisora III & Daniel Dubois vs. Kevin Lerena RBR.

No, that's not what happened. Krassyuk explained it several times.

The Joshua fight was originally scheduled for 21st July and a possible undisputed against Fury for December. It was always the plan that Usyk would have 5 months between defending his belts twice (that's something Fury has never done, btw - two title fights in the span of less than half a year). But since the Joshua rematch was postponed by a month for late August, the proposed undisputed fight had to be postponed as well. But January was out of the question, purely for financial reasons. You can't have a big PPV fight in January when people are all skint due to the holidays - any event manager can tell you that staging a big sporting event or a concert for January is the worst idea ever from a financial point of view.

So the fight was eventually pushed to February. That's it - no conspiracies, no shady business. The postponed Joshua fight set these things in motion, it's as simple as that. Fury and his team knew all about this, but Fury still decided to duck Usyk. It was clear that he would claim he couldn't fight Usyk in February/March after the Chisora fight. I've been telling this for weeks that this would be Fury's screenplay. Having a light sparring session against a 39-year-old plodder whom he already beat twice, then find an excuse after the Chisora fight not to face Usyk in February/March. The way Fury is managing his career is rather predictable once you see through all the nonsense he keeps talking about.

 

Context my friend! Fury fought him after he fought 2 fights with parker and a fight with pulev, all three of those fights were tough 12 rounders

 

Exactly. We need that post in this thread:
[url]https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/fury-once-again-quack-quack-quack.696062/#post-22059645[/url]
Be kind and let a mark in there, so Fury fangirls to have more nightmares.

 

ya but Usyk was in 4th gear Fury was in 1st here.. admittedly the Ukrainian was still bedding in at heavyweight though , but let's not forget Fury has toyed with Dereck Chisora in all 3 fights.. the second one was a masterclass and he beat him down from the SP stance.. whichever way you cut it when Fury is on form and up for a fight he is special also .. and for all his bravado he knows full well the Ukrainian will bring the best out in him.. I can't wait for it I hope it gets made and I'm favouring Fury but I wouldn't be surprised or upset about usyk winning.. politics aside hes a class act.. & ya Fury ties his opponents up a lot but that's common at HW.. Klitschko, Lewis, Ali.. all the greats did it.. Tua, Povetkin, Frazier fights for example..

 

It's defo a bit warm with passion here in the rbr tonight.

I've just turned the central heating off and popped open the living room windows.

Lol, gotta love ESB, it's entertaining and heats your house up for free.

I'll throw another log on the rbr fire and say as of right now I think Joyce beats both Fury and Usyk.....

 

More than anything, Fury wants to be loved. It's hardly surprising adulation is addictive for a man from a community for which it's still acceptable to vilify in the UK. Fury finds people like Wilder much easier to deal with. Wilder is the pantomime villain; he's no threat to Fury's anointed heroism. Boxers like Chisora and Whyte are no threat, so he makes them 'mates' and beats their asses.

Usyk doesn't fit into any of these simplistic narratives. He's a threat who isn't a villain, isn't a 'mate' and isn't the court jester (AJ). Fury can't define the roles for this play. And being the hero needs these roles to be clearly defined. He can't pigeon-hole Usyk and it fries his brain. So he falls back on a default setting - mocking banter. It's self-comforting, really...

 

He is doing a great job. He was booed all over the place. After the Chisora bout, and when he decided to insult Usyk. Everyone was booing his ugly ***.

 

I like Joyce but he’s starting to get hyped up a bit too much. He seems like a nice guy so I don’t know how to say this politely.. he’s got a very low iq, both in and out of the ring. He loses handily to both.

 

Well, I don't believe he was without some sense considerable sense of trepidation where it concerned Wilder, especially the first go around. That may be a point of misapprehension. Wilder actually put his best foot forward in dealing with Fury, came to the table with a magnanimous attitude, which was initially reciprocated, before he was treated to his share of Fury's acid side—Wilder's temperament unravelled because he couldn't cope with that mercurial tendency of Fury to switch between respect and rancor during a build-up (Usyk is likelier to cope much better in the emotional aspects Wilder struggled with). I would expect Fury to harbor some, fear is the wrong word, but, again, trepidation going into a bout with Usyk, because Usyk's shown that he's a fine boxer, and Fury will absolutely be respectful and studious of that.

So I don't feel like I'm really seeing anything different from Fury here, more that we just haven't seen the whole episode play out yet. It might motivate Fury to 'other' Usyk, to cast him as a dark, invasive force from some alien territory, but it doesn't mean he's a rampant slavophobe. He's going to deal with the internal voices in his way, Usyk will deal in his, but pockets of respect and good nature will inevitably break out.

I think each party involved in this new love triangle at the top of the heavyweight table (Fury, Usyk, Joyce) is just being himself. I'd like to see each of the three fight the other two at least once, although I'm resigned to the probability that only two of those permutations will transpire.

 

'Oleksandr has a son ten years old, do you want to fight him'

 

At least the top table is now occupied by three proper boxers. The fakers have been dispatched...