Fury at 30% still did better than usyk

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  1. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    You are right and Fury might go for Wilder. I know Wilder would welcome another chance.
     
  2. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Yes because Usyk was fighting at 100% capacity vs Chisora... which is totally not why people were shocked at how good Usyk was vs Joshua.

    Usyk was in gear 1 vs Chisora.
     
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  3. snake33

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    The amount of Usyk nut hugging is just incredible. He's good but not that good.
    Right now Fury, Joyce or Wilder (if he lands) could beat him.
    As soon as he starts fighting somebody other than broken Joshua........
    Fury is the # 1 HW right now. Love handles and all.
     
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  4. fencik45

    fencik45 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, he did call Fury out repeatedly back after both wins over Price. Fury fought bums instead.
     
  5. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Isn't it funny how Fury is propped up for beating Wilder 2x but you give no credit to Usyk for beating Joshua 2x.
    Interestingly, Usyk didn't have to scrape himself off the canvas 4 times to win in a 3 fight trilogy.

    But hey, let's chalk that up to Wilder being wayyyyyyyyyy better than anyone gives him credit for. Right?
    Joshua on the other hand is a bodybuilding bum (even though his resume is 2x deeper than Wilders)

    :treadmill:
     
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  6. aerows123

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    Yeah I mean Joshua beat some real killers like Pulev (Who Chisora beat), Ruiz (Who was a nobody until he destroyed AJ), Takam (who got smashed by Chisora and Joyce), Povetkin (Who got smashed by Whyte), Parker (Who got destroyed by Joyce way more convincingly than AJ), Charles Martin (Total legenary ATG heavyweight), Brezeale (Who got destroyed by wilder with the very first right hand from Wilder)

    AJ's resume has aged like ****ing cheese. You're doing the exact same thing that you are accusing others are doing. You're giving Usyk way too much credit for beating AJ. So much so that you now think he beats Fury easily just because he beat AJ. Resume isn't everything anyway. What if Wilder would destroy AJ? Right now I would take Wilder 100%. If it was AJ that faced Wlad then I'd pick AJ. AJ was never the same after Ruiz 1. Had to run away from a fat 5'11 blob. And looked a shadow of himself against Pulev, not to mention who was beat himself by Chisora just a year and a half later. He was ripe for the picking by any Elite heavyweight and Usyk was there. Congratulations to Usyk but now he will actually be genuinely tested by someone who's a level above AJ if we're being real. (And isn't gunshy because of a glass chin). Not to say he can't win but still...
     
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  7. Mendoza

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    This is because Joshua beat ranked contenders. Wilder mostly belt milked. Two other men floored Fury twice and a third was robbed. So yeah Usyk beat a better guys.
     
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  8. MrBarry465

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    Wilder is a harder fight for Usyk than then AJ Usyk fought.

    Nobody is saying it isn't a good achievement, but a Fury, Joyce or Wilder is a different ball game for Usyk.
     
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  9. MrBarry465

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    This is waffle, Fury will go straight to the Usyk fight.
     
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  10. Dynamicpuncher

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    Joshua has a better resume than Wilder.

    Parker
    Whyte
    Ruiz
    Pulev
    Povetkin

    Would be Wilder's best wins of his career outside of Ortiz who was an old man.
     
  11. Mendoza

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    Fury fights old man and cherry pick opponents. Wilder doest the same thing. This has ruined their legacy. The fans want to see them vs ranked contenders in the prime. We don't need to see a 4th match here. These two jokers are ruining boxing. Maybe and a 4th right fight between then wink future double knock out with both fighters suspended for a year on PED's. Make way for the talent that will fight each other, and the younger up and coming talent. Enough with fighting the old, fat or simply not even close to the top 10!
     
  12. Cally

    Cally Sand...sand... nothing but sand! Full Member

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    I've followed fury before he even punched himself in the face, he used to make me laugh, he was different to he is now his ego has taken over.
    It happens to lots of successful people, trouble being it makes them pretty unbearable in the end and tyson is very close to unbearable right now!

    Fighting his mate for a pay day this far along into a career , for a belt..
    RIDICULOUS!

    It should be frowned upon or even illegal in the way betting rules are set.

    Not on is it?

    Merrrrr
     
  13. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Usyk had a problematic camp due to COVID and elbow problems. He also fought a two years younger, fitter, faster Chisora than the one Fury fought last Saturday. In any case, styles make fights. A pressure fighter like Chisora (who came out swinging wildly) will always have similar match ups with a stick and move merchant like Usyk. Also, I always suspected that Usyk played possum and just did enough to convincingly outpoint Chisora but not more. Perhaps he didn't want to completely reveal what he can do and I believe that misled Joshua. Very clever tactics from Usyk if that was the case.

    As for Fury: triangle theories never work. Even if they fought the exact same version of Chisora, the result would mean sweet Fanny Adams in relation to how a fight between Usyk and Fury would pan out.
     
  14. ArseBandit

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    He did not. There was a bad cut, but it was a clear and easy Fury win.

    Even the stoppage argument holds no weight because Fury was protecting the cut well.
     
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  15. BrokerNYC

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    Where did you get 30% from?
    Triangle theory doesn't work in boxing, styles make fights.
    Usyk clearly beat Chisora btw in his second fight at heavy...

    I'm pretty confident that Fury beats usyk, but think it won't be as easy as Fury n*t huggers think.
    Usyk is rated at heavy because the way he beat AJ but the invincible Anthony Joshua is a matchroom myth.

    I'd pick Fury over Usyk and Joyce but think they'll both be competitive fights. I'd pick Fury over AJ which I think won't be a competitive fight and the only person I see beating Fury right now is Wilder but who wants to see Fury Wilder 4?