Fighters That Aren't ATG s (In your Opinion)?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Fergy, Dec 27, 2022.


  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Marcel Cerdan. Johnny Dundee. Georges Carpantier.
     
  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Joe Jannette
    Harry Wills
    W.Klitschko
    Joe Calzaghe
    Sonny Liston
    Kosta Zoo
    Natyoa Inoue
     
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  3. Ropeee

    Ropeee New Member Full Member

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    Ken Norton Vitali Klitschko Harry Greb
     
  4. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich A lot of people have pools Full Member

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    I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on Greb if you don't mind.
     
  5. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Wilfredo Benitez, Oscar DelaHoya, James Toney, Terry Norris. All very good boxers but for me they fall into that area between very good and great.
     
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  6. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    That's right, LaMotta's blatant ducking of Rocky Graziano takes the luster off his name.
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Good one! LOL
     
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  8. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hi Buddy.
    Not as one with you on your " hundreds and hundreds " that would suggest 200 minimum, if we start from say 1890ish through to 2022, personally I would struggle with naming 200 boxers as Greats/ATG, I suppose some of us would consider a fighter to be a Great ATG, while others would disagree , as pointed out with previous posts, being inducted to the HOF does not qualify you as ATG, witness Froch, maybe I am not thinking clearly, and old age has dimmed my memory ( very probable ) now what was I saying.....
    stay safe hombre, chat soon.
     
  9. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Love them but I have to single them out:
    Sonny Liston
    Matthew Saad Muhammad
    Ingemar Johannsson
    Arturo Gatti
    Ray Mancini
     
  10. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I'm not sure how Greb is overrated. Hard to overrate that guy. One of the greatest warriors in the history of boxing. Guys he whipped are in the Hall of Fame.

    + he's from Pennsylvania.
     
  11. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Can never understand how anyone can call Ingo a great fighter. Was a very good European fighter, one of the best of the early 20 th century but not an ATG in my opinion.
     
  12. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    Best of Season Mike... if we took just 1 fighter a year over the last 150 years of Boxing that is a 150 fighters, now that would be both 'inaccurate & insulting' to the Tens of Thousands of fighters who graced the Square Circle.

    so in ALL of the World, over that 150 year period, I think it is pretty safe to say you've got plenty of TOP Men who were/are great fighters, year upon year. So as stated, there are hundreds of them.
     
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  13. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Liston and Wlad?!
     
  14. Frankus

    Frankus Active Member Full Member

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    Ken Norton.
    Jersey Joe Walcott.
    Joe Calzaghe.
     
  15. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hi Buddy.
    Nice that you opened with a thoughtful gesture, and didn't get aggy, speaks well of you, and you laid your stool out in a measured way, still not 100% on board with the assertion, but will bow to your synopsis .
    stay safe buddy.
     
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