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Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Stevie G, Jan 6, 2023.


  1. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'll name some great heavyweights throughout the ages and you name me a fighter of a lighter weight class whose style resembles his or as near as dammit.

    Jack Johnson
    Joe Louis
    Rocky Marciano
    Sonny Liston
    Muhammad Ali
    Joe Frazier
    George Foreman
    Larry Holmes
    Mike Tyson
    Lennox Lewis
     
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  2. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow, interesting topic. Offhand, I would say

    Ali - Howard Davis
    Frazier - Curtis Parker
    Lewis - Carlos Monzon
    Holmes - Ike Quartey

    The rest I'm going to have to think on
     
  3. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good start.
     
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  4. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joe Louis--Koysta Tzysu. Both fought in a manner to set up the straight right hand and had exceptional timing. Alexis Arguello also fought in a similar manner.
     
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  5. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Johnson = Floyd Mayweather
    Louis = GGG
    Marciano = Arthur Beterviev
    Liston = Carlos Zarate
    Ali = Willie Pep
    Frazier = Henry Armstrong
    Foreman = Stanley Ketchel
    Holmes = Packey McFarland
    Mike Tyson = Terry McGovern
    Lennox Lewis = Thomas Hearns
     
  6. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Nice list - I particularly like Frazier = Armstrong.

    I also like @AwardedSteak863 analogising Tszyu/Arguello to Louis.
     
  7. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, Tsyzu and Arguello are at worst equally good comparisons as GGG.

    Louis punch delivery was better than all 3, they had the "snap" of Tsyzu (I.e. quicker, p4p, than GGG and Arguello), allied with perfect balance and technique, required to punch in fluid combinations, of GGG and Arguello (better in this regard than Tsyzu, imo).
     
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  8. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nice list. I particularly like Ali-Pep and Frazier-Armstrong.
     
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  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Jack Johnson - Bernard Hopkins
    Joe Louis - Jeremy Williams
    Rocky Marciano - Bobby Crabtree
    Sonny Liston - Courage Tshabalala
    Muhammad Ali - Larry Donald
    Joe Frazier - Bert Cooper
    Mike Tyson - Gary Bell
    Lennox Lewis - 1990's Wlad Klitschko
     
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  10. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Bob N Weave Full Member

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    I think it’d be safe to add Ricardo Lopez to that group too.
     
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  11. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Bob N Weave Full Member

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    The low hanging fruit for Ali is Jose Legra. I see a bit of Marciano in Sung Kil Moon, Ricardo Lopez and Louis are close enough? Jose Torres resembles Mike Tyson for obvious reasons.

    Jack Johnson is a real tough one I haven’t watched a lot of the lower weight classes from that era and that’s really were you’d have to pluck them from to see that mauling, clinching strategy.

    Smokin Bert could be for Joe Frazier but I feel like it doesn’t really count as Bert and Frazier were practically the same size. I think Cooper might be the naturally bigger guy.
     
  12. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Bob N Weave Full Member

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    Stanley Ketchel for Foreman is a good call.
     
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  13. Maxcassidy86

    Maxcassidy86 Member Full Member

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    Have there been any fighters with the style of Marciano?
     
  14. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I went with Beterviev, but I think Marciano applied pressure more relentlessly than Beterviev.

    I almost went with McGovern, who was much more relentless than Beterviev, but he was more of an explosive front runner, than the attritional Marciano.

    A Beterviev, McGovern and Armstrong hybrid, might be representative of Marcianos style and attributes.
     
  15. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Absolutely! All of these fighters had excellent footwork and most importantly to their success was their balance and how strong in their stance they were.

    A lot of folks associate footwork with speed and movement but great footwork to me is dictating the range that the engagement takes place and always being in position to deliver offense from a balanced stance. All four guys had murderous straight right hands and were never wild with their punches.