Peter Maher?

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter

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    How good was he? He seemed like a great puncher, but he didn't seem to have that many impressive wins.
     
  2. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I ranked him #13 for the 1890's in Rummys top 25 boxers in each decade thread.

    In that decade alone, he went 89-5-4, and was 74-3-2.

    Wins over Choyinkski, Slavin, Godfrey, a 10lbs heavier Goddard, Bonner and 2 vs Ruhlin, is more than a little respectable. As is his draw with Tom Sharkey.
     
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    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Maher was a top P4P puncher. You could add O'Donnell, Klondike, C C Smith, Russell and Kennedy to his win ledger. The draws with Hall and McAuliffe were in actuality wins while his only losses in that 11 year span were to Fitz and Goddard, the Goddard one revenged. He was also very unlucky, perhaps jobbed out of a KO win in the first Fitz fight.
     
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  4. janitor

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    He is one of those fighters whose resume looks much more impressive when you understand the context of the time.
     
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  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    If only someone around here had written a book on him.
     
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    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Several things about Maher:
    1) He was born in 1866 not 1869 so he was past prime by 1900.
    2) He was an alcoholic
    3)He would fight anybody.
    4) His record against black fighter was immense. Just out of the amateur ranks he retired in an exhibition against the great Peter jackson and then went on to beat Godfrey, Craig, Hayes, Stevenson, Klondike, C C Smith, Butler and others.
    4) He was in or around the light heavy mark.
    5) He looked likely to beat Sharkey when the police interferred
    6) He was an extremely clean fighter, never even clinched.
    7) His draw over twenty with Ruhlin is rated one of the greatest heavyweights by thoes who witnessed it.
    8) Counting exhibitions, he likely had 300-400 fights.

    He is greatly underrated now, in his pomp, he was the most popular fighter in the World.
     
  7. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bumping this for Saint Patrick’s Day! The forgotten World Heavyweight Champion.
     
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  8. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    He loses some points for being related to Bill Maher.
     
  9. Historical boxing society

    Historical boxing society Member Full Member

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    What's his actual birthday?
     
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    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Filtering out all the empty calories his resume reads as follows

    L TKO Peter Jackson
    W KO Gus Lambert
    L TKO Fitz
    L KO Goddard
    W KO Nick Burley
    D McAuliffe(speed boxing)
    W KO Godfrey
    W KO Frank Craig
    W NWS Joe Butler(speed boxing)
    W KO Bonner
    W Gus Ruhlin(speed boxing)
    D Jim Hall(6 round decision)
    W KO O Donnell
    L KO Fitz
    W TKO Slavin
    W KO Choynski
    W KO O Donnell
    W CAC Smith(6 round decision)
    W NWS O Donnell(6 round decision)
    D Tom Sharkey
    W KO Yank Kenny
    W KO CAC Smith
    W TKO O Donnell
    L KO Goddard
    W TKO Goddard
    W NWS Dunkhorst(6 round decision)
    D Gus Ruhlin
    W KO Joe Kennedy
    W DQ Dunkhorst
    L KO McCoy
    L Choynski(6 round decision)
    W KO O Donnell
    W DQ Klondike Haynes
    D Gus Ruhlin(6 round decision)
    W NWS Fred Russell(6 round decision)
    L NWS Philadelphia Jack O Brien(6 round decision)
    L NWS Philadelphia Jack O Brien(6 round decision)
    L KO Kid Carter
    L KO Choynski
    L KO Gardner
    L KO Munroe
    W KO Joe Butler
    L KO Sailor Burke
    L KO Marvin Hart
    L KO McCoy
    L NWS Jeff Clark(6 round decision)
    L NWS Jeff Clark(6 round decision)
    L NWS Jeff Clark(6 round decision)
    L KO Jack Fitzgerald
     
  11. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    April 18th, 1866, I have his birth certificate.
     
  12. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He has a pretty stout resume early on but it’s clear he’s someone that fought on well past his best and racked up a lot of post prime losses. It’s kind of crazy how he was erased from history for many years.
     
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