Joe Louis Facing The Big Hitters From Ali's Era..?

I agree, but the circumstances surrounding those two fights, probably push the argument Louis's way.

 

Lol. Shavers vs Louis. I'd be surprised if Shavers made it past the first round. The fight might look like Louis-Schmeling 2.

 

True. If we’re talking the same aging Liston who Ali fought then a peak Louis has an even better chance

 

Whatever prime George could catch he would destroy. Louis would be walking right into him. Yes he had the combos but his power vs George wont have same affect it did against the 6 foot 195 pounders Joe was knocking out and Joe never fought someone with the strength athleticism power and toughness Foreman had.

 

The way to beat Shavers was to stay away and let him tire out. Just 5 or 6 rounds and he could be had usually. If Louis walked right into Shavers round 1 I’m afraid he’d end up like Norton KOd.

 

I think some of Walcott's stepping was wasted flashy cake walking that really accomplished nothing.

 

On the other h and, look what happened when Shavers fought a good counterpuncher (Quarry) who took it right to him in the first round.

 

Lol Joe Louis was good for his era. I don't think most of you people understand that. Maybe do more than listen to Burt Sugar before you start talking about boxing. The era Louis fought in was crude skill wise. Joe just had more skill than the guys he chose to fight. The vast majority of fighters Louis fought were between light heavyweight and cruiser weights by modern standards. The bigger guys Joe fought like Primo Canera, Buddy Baer, Abe Simon were so crude by modern standards that they make even Deontay Wilder and Joe Joyce look like Larry Holmes in comparison.

Joe Louis knocking out these guys is like me saying because David Rodriguez and Tye Fields knocked out a lot of people so that means they were great. I know what you people will say, you will say guys like Jack Sharkey, Jim Braddock, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott were legendary fighters. First off Sharkey and Braddock weren't even considered great or even good for their era. Charles beat Louis and Walcott was never as good as old people make him out to be. It is like saying because George Mikan was considered a all time great and a Hall of Famer that means he could compete against modern NBA players. Mikan was considered great for his limited time frame. The same as Joe Louis.

If Joe Louis would of turned pro in the 1960's or 1970's at best he would be considered a low level journeyman. If 180 pound Max Schemling could knock him out then George Foreman, Ron Lyle, Joe Frazier, ect would of destroyed him. Joe could barely take light punching 170 pound Billy Conn's power.

It is so funny to read comments from people like this. You will see these old people live in their fantasy world where every righter from back in the day were some superman Deity and then you see these younger boxing fans think because they watched Jake Paul box so that makes them a expect and now run around and think if you are 6'5 you are a super heavyweight and Tyson Fury is the greatest fighter of all time.

 

Liston actually showed a very impressive outside game against Scrap Iron when he was 40+ years old.

 

I agree. But the thing is despite his reach, Liston was actually very formidable on the inside as well.

 

Like the Buddy Baer bout? Like the Schmeling bout? Like the Marciano bout? Like the Galento bout? Like the Braddock bout? See where I'm going with this?

 

Liston was dangerous in just about every position. And the prospect of him knocking out Joe Louis is certainly possible. The faster Louis takes care of business ( if he can ) the better

 

Possibly but I would layoff this one if I was a gambler. Louis also had some advantages.

 

Actually Joe Louis's knocked out men bigger than George Foreman. In his prime Foreman was between 220-230lbs. I understand Foreman was tough and had a good chin. Remember though Joe Louis never depended on 1 punch to get a guy out. He put them together like nobody before or since.
Between these two great punchers I believe the one who is catching more clean shots is eventually gonna give it up. Louis was a better boxer than Foreman. Faster, sharper, smarter, more accurate. Power similar.