Who's GREATER: Floyd Mayweather Jr or Ray Leonard?

The closest to Floyd would be Would be Benitez but he did not live the life like Floyd but boy was he so gifted and talented.

 

Ray Leonard - different offensive level, Add Duran of Montreal era to that and Hearns at 147
while Floyd is one of the best defensively -just picture that Mosely right hand that shook Floyd with a follow up
Floyd beat some excellent fighters but not at the level of the deep 80's

 

Far too many elite fighters who Floyd did not fight in their respective prime when he should have: to name a few, Pacquiao, Williams, Cotto, Clottey, Forrest (or even in lower weights: what about Freitas, Casamayor). I would also add Mosley, ODLH, but by the time Floyd went up in weight their were past their respective primes already.

Far too many unnecessary fights on his resume instead: Ortiz, Guerrero, Maidana, Bruseles, Mitchell. When Pacquiao, Cotto or Williams were in their prime, Floyd retired for two years and then forced a fight with Marquez two divisions above the latter's natural weight. Absurd.

His biggest wins against PRIME elite p4p fighters were Corrales (arguably, although he was in trouble by then), Castillo (first one being controversial), Hatton and Canelo. This is it - very impressive, but does not near Leonard. Also proved to be vulnerable to the handspeed of shot Pacquiao and Mosley, giving some indications that trouble would have been in play in a prime to prime faceoff.

Floyd may or may not have been able to prove that he is the greater of the two: but he did not prove with his actual achievments in the end.

Contrast this with Pacquiao for example: facing and defeating prime Morales, Barrera, Cotto, Hatton, Clottey, Marquez (controversial, I know), Bradley. Way-way more impressive.

 

Sorry but neither was as great as they both thought they were.

 

Floyd fought a fellow champ at a C-W.

He enforced it.

He also deliberately cheated Marquez on the scales.

That’s the definition of dubious.

 

Why is it obvious?

 

Manny didn’t throw anything in their fight.

He was both faded and injured.

He had nowhere near the offense that Ray had in his prime.

They’re not even comparable.

Floyd having had an easy time with Manny in 2015, would have been nothing like fighting Ray Leonard, with his speed, reach and power etc.

 

It’s not moronic.

It’s true.

Who has Floyd got on his resume which was better than the version of Mike McCallum from their rematch?

 

Leonardo

 

As Floyd is at least in the top 3 greatest boxers of all time, SRL isn't. Great as he is

 

floyd is 100% not in the top 3 of all time

 

Leonard and it's not close.

 

Ray was in the same class as Floyd in his prime.

There’s also many factors to consider.

Floyd has the longevity and the depth of his resume, but Ray has the higher quality wins.

 

In your opinion. Probably based partly on the fact he's unlikeable. Mine isn't.

In mine he's second only to SRR

I have considered all factors before forming an opinion, as I always do....losses, amount of weights fought and champion at being some of the others. They both rank highly in all, Floyd just higher

 

No way & Floyd only fights 12 rounds not 15 rounds.