I think he has a legit chance against Evander Holyfield, Michael Moorer (I think Moorer probably stops Floyd) and most likely Ali at certain points of his career. I like to think a prime Patterson could maybe mix it up in there with a 68 Ali with a good back. Floyd is mostly considered the most trust worthy fighter of the HW champions and if he is saying his back was an issueI believe him.
Yes 1960 Patterson will cause a lot problems for 70's Ali. Due to his style and high workrate. (like Norton, Frazier, Spinks). Just imagine how much a 37 year old Patterson stressed 30 year old Ali in 1972. I guess he will beat most of the smaller HW from the 80-90s. I favor him over Cooper, Young, Weaver, both Spinks', pre prime Holyfield (~200lbs), slightly edge over Moorer + gave him a fair chance vs the bigger 80s guys like Page, Witherspoon, Berbick, Coetzee, Cobb, Dokes, Thomas and maybe Bonecrusher & Tubbs if they haven't a good day. I guess the best fighters he could beat are: Max Schmeling Michael Spinks Ezzard Charles Evander Holyfield (max 205-208 lbs) 70's Ali Larry Holmes Mismatches: Bowe, Lewis, Frazier, Shavers, Foreman, Tyson, Mercer etc
Joe Louis. Best as in all time great, rather than actual head to head best. Watch how well, all things considered he did in his ver last fight against Ali. He lost but he certainly made a fight of it. That Patterson beats Louis.
I actually think the lighter Holyfield would be a more dangerous fight for Patterson, Evander lost a few steps climbing the totem pole. Both Spinks are a good shout and probably a gimme. Holmes I think is a big favourite but it is by no means a mismatch. I think Floyd has a shot- Schemling he might catch quickly he might also be caught quickly. I don’t think Mercer or Shavers are a mismatch I don’t think either of them are better or worse then the version of Bonavena old man Floyd fought. I’d love to watch Ezzard and Floyd fight. I think it would be interesting to see someone so bouncy, electric and reckless trying to press Charles- it would be exciting.
Speed, speed and more speed? He could also hit. Well with such a well thought out post I’m surprised this isn’t the consensus- Patterson via speed, speed and more speed by round 7.
Conn almost beat Louis. I just feel that Patterson has the speed and enough power and movement to at least seriously trouble Louis. Maybe even get a points decision.
That’s not why Conn almost won- he was as tall and as long as Louis and fought in a way Floyd hadn’t a clue about. He was a better boxer then Patterson, a much, much better boxer. Patterson wouldn’t be improving upon Conns work he hasn’t got any of the traits to do so or the moves. Conn had a great chin too- Floyd was reckless not durable enough and there isn’t a man Floyd had in his corner who’d advise him to try to overwhelm Louis. What do you think would happen if he boxed with Louis and stayed cautious? Who did he succeed against with that? Do you think Floyd beat anyone better then Louis in a boxing match? In his older years he had a better temperament but he wasn’t any better then Billy Conn was he? What happens when he gets hit? If Liston caught Floyd as a much slower guy then Louis do you think it’s unlikely Joe catches Patterson? In even his best performances he was always caught- who got off the hook against Louis?