Should Eubank Jr…

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  1. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The gigs probably up now imo. When things go wrong you need to properly analyze why they went wrong. We all speculate but tbh no one not involved will know better than the people involved.

    The big question marks are can he make 160 safely was that a big factor in the smith fight?
    Is roy jones junior a good trainer or a good fit for eubank junior?

    Can only really move forward once them kinds of questions are answered. If the weight was the problem....he needs to move to 168. If its the trainer he needs a new trainer. If its both the trainer and the weight he needs both and if its neither the gigs probably up...its time to re analyze your aspirations in the sport.

    I think talks of going up against guys like canelo as anything other than an opponent to keep canelo busy is silly atm. I think up at 168 at his age his career also becomes limited.

    Maybe it was a lucky punch. Thats the only way it could be business as usual. I thought eubank was boxing well them first couple of rounds. But tbh a lot of guys in the sport predicted this day would come. When that happens it does point to maybe hes just not good enough. Personally i think they wasted his career a bit...he was progressing well and looking good with their unorthodox training. They paniced after groves beat him when the reality was groves was too big for him and very good at measuring distance a style thats not good for eubank. He could have done well staying at 160.
     
  2. ShadesOfAli

    ShadesOfAli Active Member Full Member

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    He should get rid of RJJ. When he was talking to him in the corner after them first few rounds, I turned to the missus and said did you understand a single word of that, she said no, and me neither.

    I think he’s been a bit underrated since that loss, people writing him off as if he’s completely shot and that Smith would always beat him. I reckon he can still beat Smith with the right preparation and if he boxes smart.

    Smith did catch him with that elbow and that’s what did the damage. It happens, now let’s see the rematch, and if he gets beat again then he might want to think about retiring, but if he can avenge the loss and better yet knock Smith out then he could go on to fight for a MW title still.
     
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  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    No, his body dipped forward from a right hand before the elbow landed and before Jones started training him he was out-classed by Groves, he has never beaten an elite fighter.
     
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  4. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo isn’t going to fight him coming off getting obliterated by Liam Smith. In fact, I don’t see any big names giving him a big payday given he now has 3 losses. Each and every time he stepped up to face a live body at world level.

    The Roy Jones style was only ever going to be disaster for his effectiveness as a boxer. Roy Jones had great feet, exceptional movement and reflexes. Eubank has very slow footwork and poor movement.

    Liam Smith stops him again in a rematch.
     
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  5. Outback Wazza

    Outback Wazza New Member banned Full Member

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    He beat the quinlan for ibo
     
  6. SeanB1

    SeanB1 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    He held the IBO twice, he won it again when he beat Degale.
    It's not a world title though. It's a made up belt. Whenever any of the real world champions have it it's only incidentally alongside the proper ones.
    Although all the sanctioning bodies are so corrupt we can question them all. I did used to enjoy Warren conjuring up random postmen as WBO champs in the 90s when it was barely better than the WBU and co.
     
  7. Tibbo

    Tibbo New Member banned Full Member

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    The IBO right up there with the Blue Peter badge - the pinnacle of one's career.
     
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  8. Sonny1

    Sonny1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He just hasn’t got good enough footwork or head movement and that won’t change at this late stage of his career. Tough game.
     
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  9. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    BJS, Groves and Smith aren't even the highest level, if he fought a true A level fighter like Canelo or Benavidez, he'd get beat even worse.
     
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  10. Outback Wazza

    Outback Wazza New Member banned Full Member

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    lol sure
     
  11. SeanB1

    SeanB1 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Even Blue Peter turned down an IBO belt
     
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  12. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Moog boxing federation belt would have us much gravitas as the IBO.
     
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  13. dannyboy147

    dannyboy147 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Beat smith in a rematch sets up a huge rubber match. Then Benn.

    Surely that’s Eubanks best path, would make a tonne too.
     
  14. DON1

    DON1 ICEMAN Full Member

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    Rematch with Smith is pointless, Smith is just so much better all around. Eubank cant deal with guys who have stellar boxing pedigree and skills, its just how it is. He has done well to earn a fortune in his career, obviously his surname has helped but fair play to him he has a few decent wins and plenty of money in the bank. Guys like Canelo would probably put him in hospital tbh. He actually id articulate enough to do something else with his life. Boxing game is up for him now.
     
  15. DoubleG95Fanatic

    DoubleG95Fanatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He should genuinely retire, he’s lost all appeal he once had.