Canelo v Ryder

CST80 · Mar 6, 2023

tinman said: ↑

Danny Jacobs has seen better days
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Callum Smith was very much in his prime, and a far less drained version than the one who fought Canelo. Ryder beats Euro Level fighters like Nielsen, Cox, Akkawy and Parker with ease. Also proving he's not Euro Level.

lepinthehood · Mar 6, 2023

Ryder by round 10 Knockout.

UnleashtheFURY · Mar 6, 2023

CST80 said: ↑

No, at this point he's definitely above both of them at this point. John Ryder losing to Fielding was a terrible injustice. He won that fight without a doubt. Then the Khan that Canelo fought, was the definition of a record padding "name" and cherry pick. Khan was coming off of struggling mightily and getting rocked a few times by Chris Frigging Algieri. John on the other hand is a proven Super Middleweight coming off of several top tier performances and should've got the win over Callum Smith. Pre-Super Middleweight Ryder this might've been applicable to, this version, is vastly improved.
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CST80 said: ↑

Rocky Fielding vs. John Ryder 12 Rounds @ Super Middleweight

Round 1 Fielding 10-9 Rocky landed the heavier cleaner shots, a lot of rough housing.
Round 2 Fielding 10-9, close. Fielding still landed cleaner work, but good inside work from Ryder.
Round 3 Ryder 10-9, close. Ryder got on the inside and outworked him with hard hooks to the body.
Round 4 Ryder 10-9, close. Back and forth, but Ryder's consistent early body work nicked it.
Round 5 Fielding 10-9, close. Rocky smothered a lot of Ryder's inside work got his jab on track a little.
Round 6 Fielding 10-9 Rocky jabbing well for most of the round, controlled the majority of it.
Round 7 Fielding 10-9, close. RF kept JR at the end of his jab throughout, Ryder closed well, but not enough.
Round 8 Ryder 10-9 John backed him to the ropes & worked the body and got in several uppercuts & hooks.
Round 9 Ryder 10-9 John pinned him on the ropes and ripped him with several rights hooks, Rocky came back late.
Round 10 Ryder 10-9 RF doing well backing him up, JR catches him with a right hook, rocked him and teed off.
Round 11 Fielding 10-9, close. Near even, back and forth throughout, Fielding landed big counter hook to edge it.
Round 12 Fielding 10-9 Rocky tied up, roughed up and outworked John in the 12th.

115-113 Fielding

114-114 is fine as well.

I had a pretty rough day the day this happened, I remember it vividly, so I didn't get a chance to ever actually properly score it, I thought it was close when I watched it late the night of the fight, I missed it earlier, due to doing another RBR. Rocky did far better than I thought he did. He used his immense size advantage well, he out muscled Ryder at times, smothered a lot of his inside work, and what he did smother, he rolled with or blocked. The majority of the 12 rounds were nip and tuck, with a clean punch here and there edging it one way or another. Personally I think Rocky did just enough to nick most of the rounds, a draw would be fine as well, but it wasn't quite as egregious as I thought it was, and if they rewatch it, probably not for the people who scored it live either. In retrospect, this was a pretty impressive win for Rocky, John had been a killer at SMW, and KOing guys left and right, and Rocky did well to take flush right hooks without going down, although he was rocked once, but recovered well. He was in with a superior technician in Ryder, adjusted to his adjustments and hung right in there with him the entire time and ended up outworking him in a close competitive fight fairly and squarely.
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CST80 · Mar 6, 2023

@UnleashtheFURY Fine maybe terrible injustice was a bit hyperbolic... Aside from that, I stand by my comment. I've had both of them winning, I've gone back twice, rewatched and rescored it, initially had Ryder by a point, then Fielding by a point, and back to Ryder winning it by a point. But I'm sure you saw that post as well, while doing a search, in your bizarre obsessive attempt to show me up. Thanks buddy, I appreciate it.

Pepsi Dioxide · Mar 6, 2023

Canelo, over 60 fights spanning a 17 year career, he'll be 33 this year amazingly, it has to go downhill at some point. I don't know if Ryder is the guy to pin another L on Canelo but he could make it difficult. There are definitely easier stay busy fights I see guys taking.

vast · Mar 6, 2023

Canelo KO 6

vargasfan1985 · Mar 7, 2023

lepinthehood said: ↑

Ryder by round 10 Knockout.
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I would rejoice

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