Joseph Obey Joyce vs. Zhāng Zhìlěi & Denzel Bentley vs. Kieran Smith RBR.

Wow, just saw the fight. Some of us have been saying this from the get go, you can't block punches with your face in the HW division. Zhang destroyed his face, JJ will have flashbacks for a while after this. Looked so basic. This makes Hrgovic look a level above Joyce too. I knew Zhang would time him at will.

 

I don't know about that. Hrgovic was dropped by Zhang and looked almost as easy to hit as he has less head movement than even Joyce. I think it would be a great scrap between these two, don't think Hrgovic can hurt Joyce like Zhang, Joyce ate countless right hands from Hrgovic in their WSB fight and walked through them like nothing. Hrgovic would need Joyce getting an injury which I guess could happen if he lands enough.

 

That's your delusion. Joyce will never be the same fighter again. He got his first knock out loss and his confidence is broken. He is 38. I don't think he'll ever be a champion.

 

Perhaps, but I think Joyce's plan was to wait until Zhang tired out and fight from the outside the 1st half of the fight, then go for the KO in the 2nd half, but as you know, Zhang dished out too much damage on Joyce's face. In your opinion, if Joyce had come in heavy and fought coming forward, you think he would have won?

 

He wasn't knocked out, he also seemed to take the loss in his stride and didn't have a melt down like Joshua or come up with conspiracy theories like Wilder, so I think Joyce will be fine and we'll see much more of the Juggernaut.

Also thinking back the terminator intro for Joyce was kind of prophetic, with the eye injury. Just a shame Joyce couldn't just cut away the damaged tissue like Arnie in the terminator, lol.

 

The ref saved him from a highlight reel stoppage. I've never understood the hype around Joyce, his best win is against parker who most on here don't rate at all. People call parker paint dry, Joyce is far more boring then parker. And tonight he got battered

 

How is Joyce boring, takes a punch to land a punch, throws a ton, doesn't clinch every 30 seconds or at all, willing to take dangerous fights against dangerous opponents and doesn't just sit on his mandatory position waiting for the title shot. If more fighters were like him boxing would be far more exciting.

 

He's as exciting as a Corolla. Medicore and boring in every sense of the word

 

So intelligent. Fury knows he would lose, so he is just not going to fight. He may have thought of a strategy that no one has ever thought of in 156 years of Queensbury rules boxing!

And how about the subtle psychology of blaming it on Usyk? Pretty impressive, eh?

 

I like Joyce a lot, but all this talk of AJ, Usyk, whoever couldn't take those punches. Fine, but they wouldn't take them in the first place, they'd actually move their heads. Well, at least Usyk would. Joyce looked slower than come back Foreman in there tonight.

 

Give Hrgovic more credit. He was better than Joyce for sure against Zhang

 

From this bout we understood Joyce has a granite chin but not granite eyes. I hope in the rematch he manages to handle much better a powerful southpaw like Zhang.

 

Usyk will face Dubois at 80%. Then Hrgovic and in the end Zhang or Joyce, besides there might be some rematch like with Joshua. This is his path imo. He will make it within maximum 2 years. Then he will be free to decide to face Wilder or Ruiz. Fury & Joshua ARE OFF.

 

Well that definitely bumps Zhang & Hrgovic up the rankings.. interesting division this .. Joyce is a good lad but let's be honest he's very slow and predictable and can't adjust.. he was a schooling waiting to happen, a solid heavyweight who's managed to forge himself a decent career on limited Talent.. I'd like Fury v Zhang even tho it wont happen
.. Zhang reminds me of Tony Thompson but a little more skilled