I think Holyfield gets under Ali's skin and exploits his mistakes

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  1. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Fergy, In all honesty, it is hard to comprehend. He comes back every so often and appears to be a legit poster, then he goes on a tirade spewing hatred about Muhammad Ali. In my working days in the Mental Health Unit prior to retirement, there were patient's like so called James Page who were diagnosed with Poor Impulse Control. Hopefully in all seriousness he gets all the help he needs, I know the mods are looking at this fellow.
     
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  2. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    He's a troll, don't take him serious.
     
  3. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    That laughing emoji sums up the entire thread and (most of) the subsequent responses.
     
  4. Richard M Murrieta

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    Pug, This so called James Page is a retread troll, try not to take him serious, he is in his deranged mind targeting Muhammad Ali, possibly an old Vietnam vet who is fixated on Ali, it is common in Mental illness.
     
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  5. Greg Price99

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    If anything, despite disadvantages in height and reach, the quicker and more mobile Holyfield outboxred Bowe at range at times. It was when they fought in close that Bowe's size/weight advantage began to tell.
     
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  6. Richard M Murrieta

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    Yeah. I did notify the mods about this retread troll.
     
  7. James Page

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    I haven't watched EVERY Ali fight ever, but most of the ones that are up on YouTube.....I can't think of any that I've seen where he uses his head as frequently and effectively as Holyfield. And from what I've seen Holyfield is much more effective infighting from the clinch.
     
  8. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter

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    Frazier seemed pretty effective at using his head, albeit nowhere near as dirty as Holyfield. A prime Frazier was only able to beat a rusty Ali, two better versions of 70s Ali beat Frazier.

    You're also underrating Ali's strength here. Holyfield was nowhere near as strong as someone like Foreman, and Ali outmuscled him in the clinch numerous times. Holyfield would have his hands full there as well.
     
  9. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That is a bit of a point. As far as physical strength in a clinch, Ali was real strong. I recall multiple opponents saying they were surprised by it.
     
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  10. slash

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    That doesn't mean you have to spew hatred on Holyfield. On page 2 of this thread you said he, James Page, didn't bother anybody, but he seems to be bothering you greatly. Very uncharacteristic from you.

    There's not many guys that could match up well with prime Ali. Joe Louis, maybe prime Mike Tyson, maybe mental giant Rocky Marciano, maybe on point Jack Johnson, peak Frazier, peak Lewis.. only guys like that.. and Holyfield.

    Holyfield is underrated in many ways. And in the intelligence department too.. I think he would laugh at Ali's schtick.
     
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  11. Richard M Murrieta

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    I leave you to your own faculties. I will walk away from both sites, people do have a right to their opinions but Page has been before. Adios to the friends that I have made over the last three years. This time it is real, good luck.
     
  12. swagdelfadeel

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    See you tomorrow!
     
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  13. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    C'mon man you were politely called out on a glaring inconsistency-in what you said about someone you later flipped out on, & by me in being mean & way out of character.

    Just admit you were wrong, bothered by something else, driking heavily or whatever was the case, & let's move on together.
     
  14. Pugguy

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    Lol, I thought you might’ve written Holyfield’s reply as “Well your momma told me last night that I AM The Real Deal and that she’d be more than happy to BUTT uglies with me again” ….lol, that might’ve seeped a wee bit under Ali’s skin, lol.
     
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  15. slash

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    Well, we count on you and know this is just an aberration. If somebody insists on calling Ali by Clay.. that shouldn't deserve even more than one reply. That's somebody jerking off in public, is what that status is.