Eubank Sr Vs GGG

A stoppage from a head punch(es) in this fight is unlikely in the extreme.

Whilst I could see GGG getting a stoppage from a body shot, the most likely outcome is a close decision either way. Eubank had a better defence and GGG a better work rate. I'd take GGG to outwork Eubank Snr for a narrow, and possibly debatable, points win, prime for prime.

 

GGG comfortably outpoints Eubank, who is far more overrated than real greats like Charles and Holmes. He would be too busy for Chris- who does have the counter-punching skills to win some rounds, but GGG's controlled aggression a lot harder to counter effectively than that of Benn's 'hit & miss' exertions (in their first fight, the more controlled version of Nigel being robbed in the rematch, of course). Eubank's mighty chin sees him reach the final bell, but a score of around 116-112 is very likely...unless it was in England in 1990s when that bloke with the fuzzy head would come on after Eubank was outboxed yet again..."...and the winner, and still the biggest paper champ in boxing- Simply The Best...etc" Still the p*ssed up footy fan turned fight fan, who'd sank about 25 beers in 3 hours, went home happy.

The WBO strap at the time, seemed to be most valued by British fighters and Kronk Gym. Fair play to the likes of Hearn and Warren for realising the gap in the market- and to avoid the McCallum's, Kalambay's, Toney's and Nunn's to fight the DeWitt's, Sherry's and Sugarboy Malinga's. Great for the layman and casual- an ITV slot at 9.30pm on a Saturday, millions of viewers and British fighters 'dominating' (whereas the reality of Benn vs Eubank I, was really to see who the 6th best middleweight in the world was).

GGG at 160 was (briefly) regarded by many as the best pfp fighter in the world- his convincing win (first fight) over the most 'bought' fighter in recent memory (Canelo) was an excellent performance- and far better than anything Eubank did- especially at 160. Eubank was never anywhere near the top 10 pfp. Spent most of his time at 160 being outboxed by Gary Stretch, Dan Sherry (until he headbutted him and somehow received the decision) and a very questionable verdict vs Watson. His decisions vs Schommer and Amaral at 168 are up there with any of Sven Ottke really bad ones.

 

Vastly superior skills ? No just no.

If anything you could also say Eubank's resume is not exactly amazing either, and he also got quite a few gift decisions along the way aswell.

Saying all that Eubank at his very best would push Golovkin, but I tend to think Golovkin's better workrate and aggression gives him the nod in a competitive decision.

One thing is for sure is that neither man is stopping eachother.

 

I wouldn't say the 2nd fight with Benn was a robbery, it was a very close fight i only had Benn winning by a single point. And remember Benn also had a point deducted, which led to a 2 point round in favour of Eubank which was the difference.

Benn was definitely unlucky not to get the nod, but I wouldn't say a draw was the worst result it was extremely close.

You could also say wins over Watson, Benn, are better than 95 percent of Golovkin's resume which is not exactly filled with amazing fighters either.

And lastly I don't think Golovkin would've been a top 10 P4P fighter in Eubank's era either, with the likes of McCallum, Toney, Jones, who I would favour over Golovkin.

 

Personally I think Golovkin is better in almost every category than Eubank Snr with the notable exception of marketability. Eubank could really sell himself, that's for sure. Eubank has a great chin and good power, so you'd probably see Golovkin working from behind the jab as he does with the power punchers, picking his punches with care. I don't think even GGG can floor Eubank with a single shot. Golovkin on points in a fun match, is my estimate.

 

In that alternative universe, where Golovkin had the opportunity to fight Eubank Sr., a win would equate to Golovkin's crowning achievement.

In other words, Golovkin would have needed the performance of his career to beat Eubank Sr.

 

GGG UD.

 

I can’t see any way Eubank wins this, it’s an obvious distance fight as both have rock solid chins. I just see GGG’s higher output which isn’t huge but more than Eubanks being enough to eke out a points decision.
I don’t think it would be a great fight.

 

Eubank was sometimes a bit lazy in his fights but at his best i think he would beat GGG

 

It depends what you regard as a robbery, to me if a fighter definitely wins 7 rounds and loses 5 (all obvious 10-9s) and doesn't get the decision, then he's robbed. Like Benn was here. I had De La Hoya beating Trinidad something like 7-5, the idea that "oooh, if you'd have scored one round differently it was a draw", doesn't wash. Oscar won 7 rounds without doubt, Benn won 7 (deducted 1-point), both were robbed.

Just like in a game of football, if a match is 2-2- and a team scores a last minute winner that's proven to be wrongly disallowed, they're robbed of victory. The idea that it was a close game doesn't matter, they've still been shafted by a bad decision. Of course, there are 7-5 fights that could have been 6-6 on my card (e.g. Calzaghe-Reid), that I may have struggled with certain rounds- but those two previously mentioned aren't them.

 

Good post, Gregg and spot on.

 

That's actually a very very interesting take on things and one i haven't really encountered, certainly not in recent history.

 

Thanks mate...apart from the fact that I thought Oscar was robbed of course (now edited) I'm reminded of the Ali-Shavers fight, which famously has the judges cards broadcast on TV, to which Angelo would get someone to run out and see how Ali was getting on. So after 12 rounds, they know Ali's definitely won 8, so he doesn't need to win any more, just stay on his feet. So even if it ends 8-7, it's not a robbery- he's got the rounds in the bag- which is how I felt too- and how I felt about Oscar-Felix.

 

Yeah how wild was that with those cards. Good old Angie onto everything. I'd agree with your take on Oscar - Trinidad too. You hear oh but he didn't deserve it he started running that's no way to finish etc but if you have the rounds in the bank it doesn't matter. Of course the judges were off.