Schocking pictures of Holyfield before and after a training camp for moorer

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  1. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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  3. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    But youll have a bunch of morons who have never been in a gym in their life claiming he was clean...
     
  4. SHADAPBLAD

    SHADAPBLAD Viscous Knockouts Full Member

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    chicken and broccoli
     
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  5. Mastrangelo

    Mastrangelo Active Member Full Member

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    I recently came across video where Lee Haney, Mr. Olympia - claimed that He helped Evander put on weight and had him gain 20 pounds in 5 weeks.
    Obviously, if You train with Olympia-level body-builder, You'll at the very least have information about and access to certain "things". Haney also talked about having some "doctor" who broke world record in squat at age 46 help design training program to build Evander into a heavyweight.
    Beyond that, everyone can make up their mind themselves.
     
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  6. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I find the approach of growing during training camp interesting, most other heavyweights were probably melting down.
    However lugging around 15lbs of new tissue in a fight must be extremely taxing on the heart.
    Since apparently he wasnt that size all year round.
    Really this explains the "heart" issues and other weird ailments he had in the mid 90s
     
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  7. Reinhardt

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    Yeah,,and body builders are known for NOT taking steroids
     
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  8. Pat M

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    but, but,...he never failed a drug test...and 25 people on this board alone have a friend who "never used PEDs" and their friend is built like EH...I asked some of the guys at our gym yesterday what happened to a guy who was training and was built a lot like EH? They laughed and told me I wouldn't recognize him if I saw him, they said his shoulders and neck had shrunk and he was soft around the middle and not nearly as "veiney" (vascular) as when he was "training." Guess not training is tough on a 21 year old?

    Funny how those guys who just had "great genetics" and were "always muscular" always seem to lose the muscularity in the neck, traps, and delts immediately when they stop "training." If I didn't know better I'd suspect it had something to do with androgen receptors and no longer using PEDs...
     
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    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The second picture exaggerates Holyfield's musculature. It was taken immediately after the end of the fight. Muscles look bigger after a workout. Otherwise I agree, the new breed of HWs can gain mass during camp obviously due to PEDs.
     
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  10. sauhund II

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    I am convinced Holyfield was on PED's his entire career and that includes his Cruiser weight run, at Heavy he just perfected it with serious PED experts.
     
  11. Entaowed

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    I doubt it.

    I've been posting on this forum for over a decade, read it longer, & if folks have everf claimed Holyfield is clean, it is rare.
    See if you can find anyone ever doing so. If so, please link it here.
    Much more likely, unfair to the athlete & irrational is assuming guilt absent even good even circumstantial evidence.

    However there is plenty of evidence that Holyfeld juiced, the Balco investigation being chief amongst them.
    Of course gaining new muscle in such a short time-especially without being thin or having lost a lot of weight-is a very good indication of guilt.
     
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    I doubt nobody thinks Cus would do that-many are unreasonable about Tyson-in both directions.
    A good # suspect & even insist he used PEDs, with no logic behind it.
    I can go through the argument in a few paragraphs, but basically he is well within what some looked like naturally even before PEDs were invented, & was bulky/strong as a kid who did not even weight train, let alone had money or reason to use PEDs.

    While Cus
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    I have read Holyfield would come into camp looking like a Cruiser and leave a HW, this might've been based on a lack of knowledge when it came to steroids, maybe he just hopped off the juice entirely when he was out camp.
     
  14. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its not up to discussion if he was on PEDs, the fact that he wasnt accused or pressured about it back in the 90s as opposed to now also says alot about his opposition. If the rest of the division was clean, everyone else would have raised a huge stink about it.

    The more shocking part to me is how baldy he abused them, to the point where the negative side effects actually also showed up in the ring. And the fact that he still shrunk down to cruiserweight between his fights even after fighting at heavyweight for 5+ years.
    You would think that at that point he would keep the size and settle at the higher weight. I dont believe the kther top heavies were clean but i also havent seen any of them shrivel up like that between fights
     
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