Who as the best notable Heavyweight that you would pick to lose to RJJ ?

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  1. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Fair enough.

    I was thinking more of opponents at or close to their best.

    I imagine he would have a decent chance against Ali of Holmes, but If I was making that match-up, it would be the Ali of Folley or Williams.
     
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  2. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    He could likely hang with many of the old time era heavies of 176-200 pounds. I can see him giving hell to the Braddock's, Machens, Nathan Manns and Henry Coopers of the world. He definitely would have been competitive with Ezzard Charles, Jimmy Bivins, Archie Moore whether they fought at light heavyweight or heavy
     
  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Why do you think he "tools" Dempsey but not Rocky?
     
  4. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm not sure I would include either of Archie or Ezzard at Heavyweight.
     
  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Keep in mind, RJJ came into the ring at 180-185. Ezzard Charles was 184 pounds when he won the HW title. I don't think a 184 pound Charles or a 185 pound Moore would bulldoze a 180 pound RJJ. I think it would be competitive.
     
  6. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Competitive, yes.

    But would you bet on Roy of Ruiz to beat either of these guys at their best HW form ?
     
  7. BoB Box

    BoB Box "Hey Adam! Wanna play Nintendo?" Full Member

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    Tommy Burns and even if the fight was 20 rounds.
     
  8. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

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    Jim Braddock and Leon Spinks
     
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  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    No, but he doesn't have to come in at 193. He could come in at 180 pounds. I still would favor Charles, but a 184 pound Charles isn't steamrolling a 180 pound RJJ. In fact, RJJ has a reasonable chance at victory.
     
  10. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Agree with the first.

    No sure about the second.

    Leon was a big lad and had some speed and skills.

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  11. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I could see RJJ clowning Leon Spinks. It's Michael Spinks that RJJ should be worried about
     
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    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    if RJJ had to make it through everyone Ali did in the 60's leading up to Folley, he would not make it far enough to get a shot at Ali

    and I know they were both old and RJJ was in horrible shape, but look at how one sided the Tyson exhibition was
     
  13. Jon1962

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    Foreman post Moorer.
     
  14. Terror

    Terror free smoke Full Member

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    Rocky is tougher, a harder puncher, had more defensive techniques, and fought better fighters. Dempsey was a ducker and came up short in his toughest fights.