Send in your light heavyweight to give prime Ali a good scrap

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  1. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    RJJ hasn't fought any championship rounds in his life, he made it to 12 with guys that definitely weren't Liston or Frazier, the gap in skill would start to grow significantly going past 6

    Moorer as in the guy that got caught by 45 year old slow Foreman, his head movement was nonexistent, Ali would have all night to dish out combos like he did on London
     
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    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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  3. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    No one beats Ali but Spinks with his size, speed and jerky style could be a bit interesting
     
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    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was nowhere near as mobile as Ali.
     
  5. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Right, I see this two ways: either Ali by tko in 7 or 8 or by boring decision ala Ernie Terrell..either way I'd been a boring fight but Ali would win.
     
  6. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LHW as in weighing 175lbs for a fight vs prime Ali? If so, 3 pages in and I've not seen an answer that matches my opinion(apologies if I've missed any).

    Admittedly, my answer may not be playing along with the spirit of the thread.

    That answer is that I would not favour any 175lbs fighter in history to give a prime Ali a good scrap. I mean that literally. 1 may last several rounds and have an outside chance of going the full 15 if they "fight" defensively enough, but I can't see any of them being genuinely competitive i.e. winning rounds, unless Ali is playing with them and let's them.
     
  7. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If your opponent quits then you win. Vitali struggled with Byrd's elusiveness and one of the downsides of throwing a lot of punches (especially against an evasive opponent) is a greater risk of injury.
     
  8. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think any of those mentioned stand a chance. Not against Ali at his best.
     
  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    RJJ and Eddie Muhammad deatroys