You see in most sports modern day athletes are more advanced. In boxing many fans don't believe it. Do Leonard, Hearns, Duran beat everyone at 147 today? Does Hagler beat everyone at 160 Does Whitaker beat everyone at 135 Heavyweights are a lot bigger today than back in the 80s. Do Larry Holmes and Mike Tyson beat everyone in today's heavyweight field? My general question is. Are modern day current fighters significantly if at all better than fighters of the 80s (90s, 2000s as well) ?
oh yay another evolution thread... Light flyweight: I'd favor Chang and Zapata over Kenshiro Flyweight: Guys like Laciar and Chitalada would be favored over today's flyweights. Super flyweight: lot of good matchups here. I think I would call this even? Bantamweight: I know Inoue moved up but I'll count him until july 25th. I'd favor him over all 80's bantamweights off the top of my head. also this comparison isn't fair because we're comparing a whole decade to a single year. Stopping here but I'll get back to this later.
turn of-early 80's Holmes and mid-late 80's Tyson absolutely dominate, as do Duran, Hagler, and SRL take for example some of the fights where Canelo dropped the guy with a body shot or Tank's body shot on Garcia Hagler, Duran, and SRL have traded nastier body shots all night, there are levels
I don't believe in evolution. Today's boxers are better in some categories. In some boxers from the 80s. The category where, IMHO, today's boxers are losing is Welterweight. I don't think they would beat everyone today, but all three would be Top 10, and one of them would be the champion.
Right now 130 - 147 isn’t that strong. A few years back with Floyd and PAC and the rest of them would have held their own vs the guys from the 80’s. Tyson Fury from the second Wilder fight has a chance to beat any Heavyweight from History in my opinion.
Heavyweight = Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson, Pinklon Thomas, Tim Witherspoon. Light Heavyweight = Michael Spinks, Dwight Muhammad Qawi, Matthew Saad Muhammad, Marvin Johnson, Eddie Mustafa Muhammad, Virgil Hill. Middleweight = Marvin Hagler, Michael Nunn, Sumbu Kalambay, Iran Barkley, Thomas Hearns, John Mugabi, Mike McCallum, Herol Graham, Roberto Duran. Jr Middleweight = Thomas Hearns, Wilfred Benitez, Julian Jackson, Mike McCallum, Roberto Duran. Welterweight = Sugar Ray Leonard, Thomas Hearns, Donald Curry, Marlon Starling, Roberto Duran, Pipino Cuevas, Lloyd Honeyghan, Simon Brown. Lightweight = Alexis Arguello, Edwin Rosario, Hector Camacho, Ray Mancini, Livingstone Bramble, Pernell Whitaker, Jose Luis Ramirez, Julio Cesar Chavez. Featherweight = Salvador Sanchez, Azumah Nelson, Eusebio Pedroza, Rocky Lockridge, Marcos Villasana, Barry McGuigan, Jeff Fenech, Antonio Esparragoza, Jorge Paez. I think i can safely say that's a yes from me......
[ I don't think they would beat everyone today, but all three would be Top 10, and one of them would be the champion.[/QUOTE] I think he means THE CHAMPION. As in the number 1 guy
If many of you are saying no My question would be why hasn't boxing advanced like the other sports. If an NBA championship team played a championship team team from the 80s (I don't know how familiar some of you are with basketball) they'd crush them (Be real) because of how much the game has changed and skill has progressed Why isn't that the case in boxing ?