Did movement trouble Joe Louis?

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  1. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some more than others though.
     
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  2. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Certain fighters have certain styles that trouble them. Louis
    was electric against fighters that came at him, but fighters
    that fought behind the jab side stepped and countered well
    he had his problems. But theirs no shame in that, but also
    no denying it based on his losses and tougher fights.
     
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  3. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol:
     
  4. Rakesh

    Rakesh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I believe you'd need to stick all sorts of punches in Louis' face with that movement to give him trouble like Conn's man said. Knowing this does intrigue certain fantasy matchups though.
     
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  5. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    I will say this about that: I don't believe that Joe Louis had any more trouble with Boxer-Movers than any other Boxer-Puncher has/had. Pure Slugging-Punchers, such as George Foreman, will always have more problems with Boxer-Movers than Joe Louis did.
     
  6. PRW94

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    People talk about the Conn fight this and the Conn fight that ... who won?
     
  7. JohnThomas1

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    It was an extremely strong post from CT :lol:

    CT - mcvey is continuing to exhibit his immense mind control over Doza on another forum.
     
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  8. hdog

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    My recollection of the Louis-Conn fight is that Conn didn't do well moving in the beginning, it was when he settled down and fought Louis was when he turned it around. It thought it was more hand speed than foot movement that gave Louis trouble.
     
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  9. Flash24

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    Of course Joe Louis won. Both fights. That's a tribute to his greatness, and he did what great fighters do, that's find away. But what can be gleaned from the 1st fight was , Louis had issues early with Conn's movement combo punch, move some more, and that Conn, not close to the heavyweight limit, repeatedly stun Louis throughout the fight.
    And my question to anyone who's reasonable is, would Mike Tyson , Joe Frazier, George Foreman, or Liston have the same issue with Conn?
    Very doubtful in my opinion. Were they better than Louis? No not one had the complete offensive arsenal Louis had. But they had other strengths that would've overwhelmed a fighter of Conn's abilities and especially his size.
    Louis like all fighters had weaknesses, and not just Conn demonstrated it, but Schmeling, and Walcott too. Factor in the multiple times he was dropped by other fighters even in his prime. He had weaknesses, his offensive firepower hid it well against his competitors.
     
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  10. Pugguy

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    Ah mate, the tea and bikkies was hilarious also.

    When you know the history and dynamic, both your post first and then CT’s post following that in complement really hit the spot -

    And if anyone is interested in the M-Men ORIGINS stories, I believe the original transcripts are still here, largely intact.

    One thing I’ll say, it’s never been competitive, our mate @mcvey has always destroyed ‘Doza at every turn.
     
  11. Pugguy

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    Good marriage.

    Removing your tactfulness, I might’ve answered my Mrs with: -

    “Nothing you’d understand, just something between me and my ESB boxing mates.”

    Then it would’ve been on for young and old.

    I’m young, she’s old.

    I keed, I keed. :lol:
     
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  12. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol:

    Lol! Not unlike the to and fro in the old Mad Mag. comic Spy vs Spy.

    Perhaps ‘Doza has already made that trip back in time - “naturally” plugging in the wrong date and location into his time machine.

    ‘Doza’s comical ineptitude giving rise to what we now know as the 1918 flu pandemic.

    As Maxwell Smart used to say - “Missed by that much.”
     
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  13. Nosferatu

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    Plot twist; Mendoza tossed a banana peal into the ring in the Willard fight, which Johnson originally won
     
  14. JohnThomas1

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    What's a forum without some fun and games.

    M-Men Origins, a classic if ever i saw one. As you say tho, ridiculously one sided to put it mildly albeit extremely amusing at consistent intervals.

    I'm trying to picture them as Mr. Glass and David Dunn, with Mac being David of course :lol:
     
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  15. JohnThomas1

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    He would spell it like that too, which makes this post another winner.