Who Is The Best Fighter That "Comeback Foreman '', Could Have Possibly Beat?

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  1. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Vargas was not an elite fighter Full Member

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    No way could Foreman stop Hide in two rounds.
     
  2. JohnThomas1

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    Foreman stopped the reigning lineal heavyweight champion. What was Herbie Hide?

    Noway Holmes could stop Trevor Berbick in 2 rounds. Does that put Bernardo Mercado and Tyson ahead of him? You can dd Carl Williams to the Holmes/Tyson scenario.
     
  3. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hide was on the floor about 100 times vs Riddick Bowe and seemed to panic against the bigger man, Hide was also a glass cannon and a blown up Cruiserweight. An early 90s Foreman would definitely be able to get Hide out of there early.

    All of this is irrelevant though whether or not Foreman could stop Hide as early as Vitali doesn't really matter. The fact is a win over Moorer is by far superior than a win over a Hide.
     
  4. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    I doubt it. Hide vs Foreman would have been as one-sided as the Morrison or Axel Shulz fights for at least a few rounds, George getting through in the 2nd half of the fight seemed likely (through a combo of Herbie gassing and that weak beard) but he's way too slow to get Hide out there that early.

    It is irrelevant though, I agree there.
     
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  5. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There were a number of fighters who were capable of stopping Foreman in his second career, he just didn't fight them.
     
  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I’ll politely refer you to Stewart against Tyson and Foreman, Grimsley against Thunder and Foreman, and Savarese against Tyson and Foreman.
     
  7. BCS8

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    Probably Briggs. Fight was close and quite a few people had Foreman winning. I still think Briggs is severely underrated on these forums.
     
  8. cslb

    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

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    Hypothetically speaking, maybe. The fact remains he was not stopped in his “second career”.
     
  9. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Vargas was not an elite fighter Full Member

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    90`s Foreman was no Holmes.
     
  10. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Vargas was not an elite fighter Full Member

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    Bowe`s hands were far quicker than Foreman`s, however Hide out-boxed Bowe in the first two rounds v Bowe while Vitali blew him away with no problems at all.
     
  11. JohnThomas1

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    Well it's safe to say that went straight over your head.
     
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  12. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Classic in Foreman Revisionsm mode......

    If you had lived thru Foreman's comeback he was seen as a circus act, including his KO over the ghost of Cooney.......he fought nothing but set ups and fillers. He got some credit for his gallant effort to play a Heavybag vs light punching Holyfield who made the fight way more competitive due to his stupidity to brawl.....

    The most powerful Heavy that has ever lived, according to Forum gospel could not stop genuine Glass cannons named Stewart/Morrison/Saverese/Schulz/Grimsley/Briggs...............the vast majority of those stone killers were waxed by other fighters not in minutes but seconds.......

    From a historical standpoint Foreman's winning a belt is remarkable but in realty he did not earn the shot thru his ranking but for $$$ value, again was used like a Heavybag until he landed the lucky shot literally in the eleventh hour against another glass chinned feeble minded Ex Light Heavy..................and got stripped from all belts afterwards because he refused to fight anybody with a pulse or re match a Gift win vs a Palooka..

    That's Foreman second career, all smoke and mirrors.

    In his first Career he was a force to be reconned with some serious flaws but extremely dangerous right out of the gate.
     
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  13. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You just change subject all the time what has this got to do with anything ? Your original comment was that Vitali beating Hide puts him above Foreman in 90s, which made absolutely no sense. Because beating Lineal champion Michael Moorer is by far a better win than a win over Herbie Hide.

    Whether or not Hide outboxed Bowe for 1 or 2 rounds, or whether or not Foreman wouldn't of finished Hide as quick as Vitali did really who cares ? This is all irrelevant.

    The original comment from you about a win over Hide being better than a win over Moorer is inaccurate. And all the other stuff is just nonsense that has nothing to do with the original quote you made which was false.
     
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  14. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Vargas was not an elite fighter Full Member

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    Vitali looked better v Hide than Foreman did v Moorer.
     
  15. JohnThomas1

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    Moorer looked more like a belt holder and lineal champion than Hide. Oh hang on, he was.
     
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