Was Roy Jones The Most Dominant Boxer Ever

Good to see Roy being rated accordingly…it just goes to show that with the passage of time, many a good judge*, will once again rate a fighter on his best years, of which Jones had a decade of complete brilliance, rather than when a fighter fought on too long and started to embarrass himself.



* That’s most people, not idiots.

 

Possibly but my only caveat is that his level of opposition overall was probably a notch below some other truly dominant champs from history, even though he maybe had better overall wins.

My pick would be Robinson at Welter or Hagler/Monzon and MW.

 

He's certainly in the conversation. He was ridiculous for 50 fights over almost 15 years. I don't think the Griffin loss overly saps that string. He lost on a technicality in a fight he'd just turned around and absolutely disgraced the guy in an immediate rematch.

 

Yes all good until he gets tagged. Real good until then. Of course he’s great. But he gets touched on the whiskers and there he is.

 

I think the weight gain and loss negatively affected his punch reflexes and caused him to get caught in really off balance, bad positions and he was KOed then. I don't think he was chinny early on.

 

Going from 175 up to heavy and the all the way back obviously hurt him badly physically. But look at some of his BRUTAL knockout losses. Hate to say it but hate to see what he’s like in his mid 60’s. He took some frightening bad bad bad knockout losses. Still though his chin will have always been his weakness. Just early in his career he was too fast/good for that have been found out. But when he did get found out. Oh god.

 

Lol. Best fighter we've seen pal.

 

It's funny, because in 2001, when Roy Jones was about to fight future 175-pound champ Julio Gonzalez, most of the boxing writers (some of whom are still around or have graduated to now announcing fights) staged a "Roycott" and encouraged boxing fans not to buy any of Roy's PPVs because his opponents were all bums.

Now, fans tout many of those same "bums" as great wins over legit opposition (which most of them were).

Funny how perceptions change.

 

WTF?

1. That has no relevance to the thread.

2. Evander was a decent size HW, as well as a money fight for a guy who’d fought almost 50 times and who was 34 himself. It wasn’t embarrassing. Evander had recently fought Rahman and Ruiz. This was before he’d fought Toney.

Apply the relevant context.

 

The “Roycott” was very harsh wasn’t it.

It was obviously born out of frustration due to the fight with Dariusz not having happened.

He’d also just fought Harmon.

So it was his second voluntary fight against another lesser opponent.

But it was harsh, as he’d just recently fought Reggie Johnson, Eric Harding and Richard Hall, and Dariusz’ team wouldn’t negotiate with Roy’s team and HBO.

Also, had Tarver beaten Harding, Roy would have fought Tarver in 2000 instead.

 

I bet them same people felt silly after Julio Cesar Gonzalez went on to end Dariusz Michalczewski's long title reign and taking his 48-0 undefeated record.

 

If his chin was always as bad as you say, even at 160 (it may have been) then going undefeated at world championship level for so long proves even more how good he was.

 

Totally agree with you. There’s no disputing his speed and reflexes. And power. And overall talent. Just imagine if he had better punch resistance. The chance his opponents would have is a disqualification as against Montell or just wait till he ages. A lot of his losses are due to him being old and past his best but most of those losses were very frightening knockouts. Just hope I’m wrong but it might catch up with him later.

 

I know John Ruiz wasn't the best Heavyweight obviously, but I remember him catching Jones a few times with a few solid right hands.

If Jones's chin was that bad in his prime then surely much bigger Ruiz would've had more impact on him.

As I said I know Ruiz was a forgettable belt holder, but he still decked Holyfield pretty hard and was somewhat close to stopping him.

 

I truly believe the weight loss from Heavyweight to Light Heavyweight weakened him. And it probably didn't help losing all that weight in your mid 30s either.

The punch Johnson KO'ed Jones with for example would never of KO'ed Jones in his prime I'm certain of that.

For whatever reason after Tarver KO'ed him added with the weight loss. His punch resistance just seemed to plummet.

Tarver was an underrated puncher though hes stopped Heavyweights in Jonathan Banks, and I remember years ago vs Chris Johnson he left on a stretcher vs Tarver and never fought again.