1951 Archie Moore vs 1987 Evander Holyfield

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    The Moore of the early 50s fights the Holyfield that became cruiserweight champion. Who wins?
     
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  2. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ooh that is an awesomely intriguing one. I gotta think about it a little.
     
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  3. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Moore is one of the greatest fighters to ever lace then up. But, I think I have to give a slight edge to Holyfield here. Both are immensely skilled, but, Holyfield has some significant advantages in height and reach. And, Holy has quick, educated footwork. It would be an amazing fight.
     
  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Gooood one.
    I'll chew on this one.
     
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  5. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have to ponder on this one too,Fergy. Would be a hell of a fight.
     
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  6. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    It's a good un, mate.
     
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  7. CharlieFirpo85

    CharlieFirpo85 Member Full Member

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    If Qawi could give him that amount of trouble, i definatelly favor Archie over '86 Holyfield. Archie will avoid much more punchels, land much more, change angies, counter Holyfield and set up some mean traps for him. But after that Holyfield's development improved a lot. So for '87 i say 50/50.
     
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  8. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Going with the Mongoose but wouldn't bet one dime on this fight.
     
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  9. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd say the key to this fight is, Can Archie hurt Evander in an exchange. I'd say yes and he'd have to, to get the win.
     
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  10. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

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    The younger (and smaller) Holyfield was, the smarter he was. He would also find the "key" to Arcie Moore.
     
  11. ivancho

    ivancho Member Full Member

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    I would favour Archie moore spec if holyfield is without steroids in his system
     
  12. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    why not just have Moore fight his equals either side of his Natural Stature Size - 5'10/11 and in & around 180 - 190lbs.

    SMALLER Fighters near always lose to Bigger Fighters, a division or two up.

    Holy beats him, but MOST L-HWs in history wouldn't too often - he'd still and always would have that little bit 'Moore'.
     
  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Moore was 185-190 pounds as a heavyweight. He would be the same size as CW Holyfield who was 186-190 pounds. Moore was 188 pounds for the Marciano fight
     
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  14. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    NOTHING to do with Weight - STATURE = HEIGHT & Weight...

    the L-HW of the past (Moore) = the Middleweight / S-MW of today, the CW's & HW's today STATURE Wise ARE Bigger (Tall), animals than the past fighters.

    Completely Separate Divisions - a Step too Far... as I said at the beginning, the Little Man 'USUALLY' loses to the BIGGER Man.
     
  15. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Moores too clever, Evander would be lost in a labyrinth of fists.