After watching all of Crawford's and Spence's fights, this is my conclusion.

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  1. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why would it be postponed? At around 2 weeks to fight night is when heavy sparring ends so it would really need to be some fluke accident for that to happen. You are completely guessing...and willing to bet money on it?

    Also I am not really sure what the point of your post was. Vernon Forrest wasn't a fraud either and yeah he was the better man in a style matchup. None of that explains how Spence is a fraud. Has he had fraudulent scorecards? No. Has he ducked anyone? No. (If you are going to type "Pacquiao" then I am going to laugh) You can't beat a top level fighter and be a fraud, that makes no sense and TC is a top level fighter who is still at the top of his game in his best weight class.
     
  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    The only thing I'm worried about is the car crash affecting Spence's true level.
     
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  3. 40ozoe

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    Maybe you are right about it being unlikely that the fight gets postponed. Watching that all access stuff though I can't help but get the feeling that Spence didn't have his best training camp before a fight this time around.

    "Has Spence ducked anyone?" cough cough bud cough.

    You can beat a top level fighter and still be a Fraud. Anyone can have an off night. Spence needs to do more as far as I am concerned than just to beat Crawford to be something else than a fraud. And then there is the likelyhood of him acctually winning this one.... can't see those odds being in his favor. Regardless of the outcome of this fight the fellow will have the chance to have an honorable career after this fight is over, does he care about his boxing legacy and will he go that route? Time will tell.
     
  4. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am a bit surprised you feel this wasn't a good camp for Earl. I think he looks tip top. What is it that you thought looked off? I feel both are in elite condition.
     
  5. 40ozoe

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    Dear lord this Derrick James guy sounds and acts like an idiot. Drinking beer on this all access show and talking idiotic stuff. How on earth did Spence end up with this trainer? Derrick also got himself caught up in some confrontation with Crawford, baited into it like a complete fool. No wonder that boxing is rotting in the cow**** with people like Derrick involved in it.
     
  6. 40ozoe

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    Confidence doesn't look like it is there. Scenarios that I see ongoing can be a few. A. Errol hurt himself in the training camp but decided to slow it down to try to recover instead of calling off the fight since after all fans are not likely to tolerate well the fight being further postponed after 8 years. B. Errol knows and has always known that this isn't a fight that he can win, he went through the motions in his camp just to not get hurt but not pushing himself, figures that without this fight respect from the boxing world will be zero so continuing without it aint worth it anyway and he will ofcourse get a paycheck from the fight so best to just go at it.
     
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  7. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    That's because he hasn't fought anybody that's as good as Spence. His level at competition has not been elite or
    This was stupid point you tried to make! Ugas whipped Pac azz into retirement! So, your argument was dumb to try to make lol.
     
  8. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    You must be new to boxing? Derrick James was trainer of the year, and will be trainer of the year again.
     
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    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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  10. 40ozoe

    40ozoe Member Full Member

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    I understand that you just recently started following boxing and that you have never entered a boxingring yourself etc so it's very understandable that you can't understand how good or bad this Ugas fellow. He truly is real B- fighter however, nothing special about the fellow.
     
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  11. 40ozoe

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    Yes. Completely new to boxing.... ofcourse.

    I mentioned three things.
    1. The fellow sounding and acting like an idiot.
    2. Drinking beer on this all access show and talking idiotic stuff.
    3. Derrick also got himself caught up in some confrontation with Crawford, baited into it like a complete fool and giving Crawford a bit of extra confidence. If he can easily unbalance Spence's trainer then that really shows how shaky the whole Spence camp is.
    None of this is untrue in any way.

    But yes... some people were dumb enough to follow their routine and to nominate someone trainer of the year... this is sort of like when that British guy Audley Harrison won the gold medal at the olympics, someone always gets the gold medal and even though all the participants sucked they had to give it to someone. I don't care if they nominated him p4p the best trainer of all times, its absolutely meaningless.

    "As of July 2023, he is currently the trainer for Anthony Joshua, Errol Spence, Jermell Charlo, Burley Brooks, and newcomer, and former interim lightweight titleholder, Ryan Garcia."
    Usyk victim AJ, soon to be ko victim Spence, chickenshoot Charlo, Brooks who?, ko victim Kingry....... maybe they are also going to nominate him trainer of the year this year?

    Have a can of beer like your good friend Derrick and then come back here to write some more stupid stuff.
     
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  12. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    Yeah that in the back of my mind too ngl.
     
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  13. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cant f*cking wait
     
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  14. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    nothing to do with honoring him with a W. You dont wear "war" into the ring unless your prepared and ready to die in the ring. You dont weaqr war and come in half ass. bhop wore war before the trinidad fight.
     
  15. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Before all the calamities befell him, I picked Mr. Nipplestilskin to beat Craw. Recently though I turned to a Crawford decision win.

    Now I'm going back to Spence by decision, even a late stoppage. He just looks in tremendous shape and that body work is something Crawford hes never had to deal with. If Spence executes that intelligent pressure behind the jab and kills the midsection, things will be interesting in the last 4 rounds. Spence is capable of pulling it off, just has to stay focused on defense at all times.

    On the other hand, Crawford uses his legs to stay outside and can counter you when you least expect it. If Spence fights like he fought Ugas, by putting his head first inside, he will get caught. How will Crawford react to the pressure, we'll see. That's why this fight is so fascinating.
     
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