Oscar's biggest Foul Ups, career wise.

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  1. Jack Presscot

    Jack Presscot Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ok, lets go over them. Up until 1996, he was doing awesome. He won his little WBO trinkets and looked great doing it. He had also beaten the **** out of Ruelas and Hernandez by then. Leija and Molina, and Paez, hey not bad for someone who had won Olympic Gold in 92.

    But in 1996, he should have never taken on Chavez and fought Kostya Tszyu instead. Lets say he loses. So what, he still fights on, and no one can accuse him of ducking the best. But I think that a primed out 1996 version of Oscar would have beaten Tszyu.

    1. Facing Chavez. He fought an over the hill competitor, who had a belt, but was a Champion on paper only. Frankie Randall probably would have beaten Chavez had the fight not been stopped on a cut. Chavez is basically the Patron Saint of Mexico, and if Oscar had wanted the Mexican people to love him, well, he accomplished the opposite, as he did the equivalent of pissing on the Statue of a Saint in Church, when he bloodied and beat Chavez.

    2. Fighting Chavez in the Rematch. See 1.

    3. Not insisting on an IMMEDIATE Trinidad Rematch, Oscar should have offered to fight him for the smaller $$$, on the streets if necessary, to gain revenge. Instead, the loss goes unavenged, and the monicker "Chicken de la Hoya" sticks to this day.

    4. Not insisting on an IMMEDIATE Shane Mosley Rubber match, again, Oscar lets his ego get in the way of vengeance.

    5. Choosing to fight Hopkins, when Hopkins beat up the man who beat his ass.

    6. Not insisting on an IMMEDIATE PBF rematch, PBF instead fights Hatton and the Big Show and retires undefeated.

    7. Not choosing the red hot and beatable Margarito as a Grand Finale:deal :thumbsup :hat
     
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  2. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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  3. stack

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    funny how you just snuck that last one in there

     
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  4. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I agree. I don't mind him fighting Hopkins though. I would add "Not training for Sturm" to that list. But the biggest mistake is Not rematching Tito.
     
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  5. dontplamelikdat

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    Becoming a household name and raking in millions of dollars...
     
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  6. Fire

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    the fight with chavez got him alot more famous. the mexican people that i know love him, i think its a myth they dont like him because of that fight, if anything he acts a little gay for the macho mexican boxing fans and thats the reason he might not be as loved as chavez..

    HIS BIGGEST F*CK UP BY FAR WAS RUNNING LATE IN THE TITO FIGHT.... That forever changed his legacy as the golden one, to the one that could HAVE WON THE BIGGEST FIGHT OF HIS LIFE IF HE WOULD HAVE ONLY FOUGHT BACK??? IT STILL PISSES ME OFF
     
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  7. FlatNose

    FlatNose Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To me the defining moment of Oscars career was the last 3 rounds of the Trinidad fight. That shameless running overshawdowed the ballsy finish against Quartey or the big KO against Vargas. With the dance against the similarly unmotivated Mayweather, and now the calling out of little Forbes and Paq, I've lost all respect for boxings highest paid primma donna.
    In retrospect, considering Oscars performances against Quartey, Trinidad , Vargas and Hopkins , he was good, but not great. And now he's downright annoying
     
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  8. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Poor Jack !

    Still suffering from Oscar-obsession.

    "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject" Winston Churchill

    Sound like one of our favourite posters ?

    Let's take a look at some of your disguised admiration for the Golden Boy.

    (I say 'disguised admiration' because it is evident that you're infatuated and constantly need to have his greatness restated and reinforced. Hence, the constant need to start new Oscar threads ( hundreds in total !) and seek rebuttal to your carefully crafted nonesense-points. When you read these rebuttals, your mind is again at peace and your doubts are driven away, sort of like having a lover coming through a test and reaffirming you in their eyes.)

    So I will help you out here, out of duty and charity.


    1. Facing Chavez. He fought an over the hill competitor, who had a belt, but was a Champion on paper only. Frankie Randall probably would have beaten Chavez had the fight not been stopped on a cut. Chavez is basically the Patron Saint of Mexico, and if Oscar had wanted the Mexican people to love him, well, he accomplished the opposite, as he did the equivalent of pissing on the Statue of a Saint in Church, when he bloodied and beat Chavez.


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    2. Fighting Chavez in the Rematch. See 1.

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    3. Not insisting on an IMMEDIATE Trinidad Rematch, Oscar should have offered to fight him for the smaller $$$, on the streets if necessary, to gain revenge. Instead, the loss goes unavenged, and the monicker "Chicken de la Hoya" sticks to this day.

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    4. Not insisting on an IMMEDIATE Shane Mosley Rubber match, again, Oscar lets his ego get in the way of vengeance.


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    5. Choosing to fight Hopkins, when Hopkins beat up the man who beat his ass.

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    6. Not insisting on an IMMEDIATE PBF rematch, PBF instead fights Hatton and the Big Show and retires undefeated.

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    7. Not choosing the red hot and beatable Margarito as a Grand Finale.

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    So there, there now Jack.

    I hope I have applied some soothing balm to your troubled and Osca-obsessed psyche. This kind of therapy will eventually heal your peculiar variant of Oscarsexuality and bring you peace of mind.

    I must stress that your continued bouts of vigorous self-abuse while viewing old Oscar tapes is probably not helpful. This misguided masturbation undoubtedly relieves your Oscar-induced tension, but in the long term, think about how it affected your soulmate, Kaygb.

    Best wishes for your continued recovery, and as always, this is pro bono. There will be no fee.


    BTW: Do you still carry that picture of a Big Black **** in your pocket ? :huh :nono
     
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  9. bigtime-skills

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    WOW..............what he said:deal
     
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  10. fitzgeraldz

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    Not attempting to buy the dodgers
     
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  11. fatdrunkenslob

    fatdrunkenslob Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oscar clearly DUCKED Winky Wright. He owes him a fight if he doesn't face Margo.
     
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  12. TommyV

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    Beating the **** out of Chavez was a ****-up for sure.
     
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  13. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Um Jack......you just got owned!
     
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  14. jimmie

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    Why fight Tszyu who was a noboddy compared to a superstar CURRENT WORLD CHAMPION TOP 10 P4P IN RING MAGAZINE Julio Cesar Chavez.
     
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  15. Jack Presscot

    Jack Presscot Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nice try little Hito. But you are like Luke Skywalker trying to teach Yoda the ways of the Force, when you deal with me. I have forgotten more boxing this AM than you know now, have ever known or will ever know.

    1. Anyone who knows and follows the sport knows that the post Randall Chavez was a mere shell of his true self, the one who destroyed Meldrick Taylor in 1990. 6 Years later, Chavez was nowhere near the fighter he used to be. Team DLH chose the fight because of advantages in height, reach and speed and youth, and for the $$$ bonanza that it turned out to be. Wanna know why Oscar avoided Tszyu the way you avoid pretty women, strip joints,and Hooters Restaurants? Watch Tszyu-Judah.

    2. 115-114, 6-5-1. Trinidad W12 DLH. You and all the Oscarsexual gay asses on ESB, the Pound, and Macksboxing need to learn how to score rounds. When Oscar is fighting, and yourself and Mundo and Beware are all having a nude circle jerk in a semi circle around the television, just because Oscar finishes the round on his feet, and you happen to jizz on yourself first, doesnt mean Oscar necessarily won the round. The rounds Oscar won (2-4, 6, and 8) he looked pretty sharp in. But the Oscarsexual Homos watching the fight at the Hard Rock with me, got a little too happy when Tito's nose was bloodied, and Oscar landed a few nice combos. They were high fiving after rounds (5, and 7) that Oscar had lost, due to his scaredy cat tactics. It was a close fight, and had Oscar put on his balls, and told Gil Clancy and that idiot Alcazar to go **** themselves, and fought representing the flag he was carrying in the ring, instead of fighting like the flag on Relentless' avatar, we wouldnt be having this little chat, now would we?

    3. Sugar beat Oscar twice, if Oscar had heartburn with the 2nd loss, he needed to make an instant rubber match, and I dont mean you and Relentless rolling around a dark pit in rubber crotchless suits making out. He again, let money dictate his life, and instead of redemption, got the fact that Sugar has 2 Vs over his overrated ass.

    4. Hopkins beat the **** out of DLH. DLH did "ok" rounds 1-4, as Hopkins was doing the typical Hopkins "feeling out(Dont get too excited) his style. As of the 5th, it was all Hops. I had it about 4 rounds to 3, with 1 even, Hopkins, going into the 9th. Then the body shot landed, the champagne flowed, and I laughed harder than I did at Tommy Chong's live comedy show. Trinidad at least got back on his feet after the beatdown, and was saved by a towel in the 12th. At the mid point of the 9th, Oscar actually had an involuntary bowel movement in the ring, that was what all the screaming was about. Screams of embarrassment, rage, and disgust.

    5. PBF OWNS Oscar's ass. Oscar should have DEMANDED redemption. Instead, whenever Oscar hears "In the Club" he will become Nauseous.

    6. Oscar is reverting back to his Troy Dorsey days, finding midgets to look good against.

    7. Class Dismissed. :deal :hi: :blurp
     
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