Pros/Former pros take on if Dubois shot was legal.

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Thanks.

    He's clearly on the decline and I've been saying he's not the same as he used to be for a very long time. Many don't seem to grasp the fact that decline can be a slow and gradual process and you lose a little bit bit by bit. Very likely Belly will stop running now.
     
  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Crawford is clear at like CJ would say, diddly squat.
     
  3. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    LOL!! You do realize the vast majority of them are British…?

    Now show all the pundits and pros that say it was low. Also… aren’t you one of the usual suspects that called Wards low blows against Kovalev (Almost identical to Usyk’s) Legal???

    :rolleyes: Surprise surprise
     
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  4. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Now you're trying to change the topic to Wilder?

    Usyk cries foul. He's been doing it forever. Wilder doesn't roll around on the floor for five minutes any time someone hits him on the hip and acts like he got socked in the nuts.

    Usyk laying on the deck for so long, he looked like Bernard Hopkins trying to get a DQ win.

    Usyk complained he'd been fouled round after round.

    Muhammad Ali had hematomas on his hips after fighting Joe Frazier. He couldn't hardly walk because his hip joints were so jacked up. You hit Usyk in the hip, he falls down or cries foul.

    The first time Dubois did it last night, I think it was in the third, Usyk already started whining.

    Medzhidov hit Usyk in the same spot Dubois did last night, and Usyk went straight to the floor. (Around the 9:40 mark) But the ref gave him a count instead.

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    Great chin. Glass belly.
     
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  5. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    Good on Tony for not being bias!! I always liked him.
     
  6. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Of course the Fury nuthuggers will agree with you when you keep repeating this but mate, just stop, please. Usyk is among the "wearing my trunks lower" group of HWs which is not a very big one. Show me anyone in the division who has a more visible navel more times than Usyk. Seriously, who? Wilder? No. Fury? Heck no. Joshua, Ruiz, Zhang, Joyce? No and no and no.

    There is this running theme here on these boards where people with an agenda try to single Usyk out.

    He is inactive (when there's a huge difference between inactivity and inactivity as his time was wasted and in any case, there are plenty of guys who are still more inactive), he is small (when there are guys who are lighter and/or shorter than him and his 6'3 220 lbs is a perfectly legit size for a HW even today), he wears his trunks high (when literally every other HW wears it higher) and whatnot. The latter claim was especially ridiculous about last night's fight when Dubois' trunks were practically hanging from his tits.

    In any case, this practice of singling Usyk out for things that are actually prevalent in the division or others are much guiltier at said things is quite tiresome at this point. I don't know what it is and I'm not one to embrace conspiracy theories, but I'm starting to think it's due to some (geo)political BS and has something to do with Usyk being Ukrainian (no, I'm not Ukrainian, I'm not even Slavic, so no, it's not victim complex on my side).
     
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I see it all the time. Like I said, I watch a ton of boxing videos and read a ton of social media. The fact that narratives about Usyk only beating AJ due to what AJ didn't do were so prevalent and still persist to this day even though Usyk literally had everything stacked against him and whooped him twice says it all. This narrative was pushed relentlessly by British pundits.

    Every country is biased but on boxing forums Brits and Americans are the worst IMO
     
  8. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    This
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    How many times do I need to explain this? Maybe if I knocked out 40+ bums and twerked my ass off you might actually listen to what I'm saying :lol:
     
  10. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    I just talked about this geopolitical angle in my previous post. I was hoping it wasn't true but I just couldn't think of anything else why would people single Usyk out for random things. It's sad that this political BS is the reason indeed.
     
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  11. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I mean you can post them if you find pros saying illegal. I’m genuinely having trouble finding pros sayijg it was illegal, posters have pointed out some and I added them to the list.
     
  12. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But I'm not a Tyson nut hugger though ? I'm a completely neutral party that actually likes Usyk more than Fury.

    Lomachenko is also one of my favourite current fighters, and I think he got hard done by Salido, Haney.

    I just call it as I see it no biased views from whether I like a fighter or not.

    There countless examples as I've gave you above of belt line shots being scored as legitimate body shot stoppages. Usyk's belly button was not visible when the punch landed, and the trunks can alter positions throughout a fight.

    For me it was a legit abdomen shot right on the belt line and certainly more legit than Khan/Judah, Crawford/Khan, which were scored as legit body shot stoppages.

    The only question is whether or not Usyk could've got up within 10 seconds had the knockdown been scored, it's all speculation as I've said numerous times. But by judging how bad Usyk looked after the shot I would seriously doubt it.

    This has nothing to do with Usyk/Fury I'm judging this completely on a single fight and I believe it was a legit abdomen shot.
     
  13. MismatchHypejob

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    Glass belly? He’s being hit in that region by heavy punchers and as the smaller guy, you helmet

    Tbh don’t expect much logic from a Wilder rimmer
     
  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He's literally one of the nicest, most humble, respectful and fearless fighters in the sport who in complete contrast to most actually fights on a deck stacked against him religiously and as I've been saying for a long time the fact he gives the haters and the threatened so little to hate on him absolutely infuriates them and they're utterly desperate to find any reason they can to justify their hate.

    Go check out the amount of controversy surrounding other greats many of whom are their boxing heroes. Usyk who has literally had one instance in his career pales into insignificance compared to them. Even The Greatest Ali had many such moments :lol:
     
  15. BoxingAndy

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    Did boxing pundits analyse what Joshua could have done better? Yes of course he is a big name in uk. But the narrative was that Joshua was well and truly out boxed by the majority in the uk. I think your own bias is creating a narrative.
    UK and USA are not the worse. Again, UK and USA punditry is viewed around the world as it is in English so the preferences of the home fighter are viewed more by international audiences . You ever seen a Mexican Canelo broadcast? You would have thought the GGG fight was a walkover ha! At least the UK and USA broadcasts analyse controversial decisions even if their pundits have a home team preference