Robert Helenius fails Drugs Test

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  1. Bob Flaps

    Bob Flaps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Big Jerk Knew
     
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  2. Viper2789

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    Are we sure the tests were the right way around and the labels weren't swapped?
     
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  3. TBC-ASAP

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    Listening to these Delboy interviews, he cannot be allowed to fight again, bloke sounds horrendous
     
  4. Faz42

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    When you are tested the tests are taken and sealed straight away, for the tests to be swapped you are counting on a tester being corrupt which is extremely unlikely.

    However in this case I can see your point.

    What's interesting in this is that of it is clomiphene then its either Eddie's worst nightmare or its his dream scenario depending on how he plays it.
     
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    Chisora almost sounding as punchy as James Toney
     
  6. kasabian19

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    I don't really see the issue with using Clomid as a testosterone booster tbh. You'll never raise your test levels outside of the normal range due to the negative feedback loop; and, if you have low testosterone to start with, your raised levels when taking Clomid might not be as a high as your opponent who could have naturally very high testosterone.

    Increasing your testosterone to a level still within the normal range will not have a profound impact on strength, power, muscle mass, endurance and the like. It will be very minimal at best. It's not going to turn you into a killer knockout artist not do anything for your skill, heart, chin etc.

    Of course, as a masking agent it is not a good thing at all.
     
  7. nurological

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    I think the main reason it is banned is because its an indication of further usage. When coming off a cycle you need something to level up your testosterone.
     
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  8. DramaShow

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    This was just a standard drug test following the fight. Makes it even worse that Allen and Clarke weren’t tested following theirs.

    Matchroom have stepped up their drug testing programme in the UK and US. They are even doing VADA testing for Hitchins vs Zepeda, McCaskill vs Ryan, and Catterall vs Linares.

    This is why we need as much testing as possible.
     
  9. Bfcad

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    That's right......its everybody else's fault. 'Victimroom'
     
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  10. ALN93

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    They can’t report the failed tests of the opponents of their fighters quick enough.

    Even the other week when one of their fighters (Baumgardner) failed a test it was leaked by a journalist. Matchroom didn’t report it.

    Matchroom’s interests in a fight:

    Whyte v Rivas - kept quiet and fight went ahead
    Benn v Eubank - kept quiet until media leaked it
    Baumgardner - kept quiet until media leaked it

    Opponents of Matchroom’s main interest:

    Miller v Joshua - reported and fight off
    Whyte v Joshua - reported and fight off
    Cusumano - reported straight away
    Helenius - reported straight away
     
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  11. DramaShow

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    Cusumano fight was on June 24!
     
  12. ALN93

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    Tests can take ages to return findings. You said it yourself, it was a bog standard drug test.