Punchers are made or born ?

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Are Punchers Made or Born ?

  1. BORN

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  2. MADE

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  3. 80% of it is BORN.... you can make the guy punch better though.

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  1. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I read about Joe Louis not being a puncher before Jack Blackburn... so would he be a case of someone that learned how to be a puncher ??

    Or this is probably just a myth and not really true and punchers are born and that´s it ?
     
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  2. Storm-Chaser

    Storm-Chaser Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Born. Turn into a poll
     
  3. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    True puncher's are born but through training and proper technique you can improve your punching aptitude.
     
  4. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There you go, Sir.
     
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  5. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    I can only say that the puncher is definitely NOT MADE.
     
  6. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not a coincidence thoguh that guys like Louis, Foreman, Arguello were all similar in how they were sit, nicely sit when throwing their best shots...

    Now, I gotta disprove my own argument when I think about Mike Tyson, sometimes Tyson jumped up with his punches and didn't affect too much..

    One thing that is important is what Marciano did, punching on the way up, Tyson too, kinda just told that. Inoue does that today.
     
  7. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just like a good chin, a puncher is born. There may be a rare case you can develop more than what you had to begin with. As was said though, that's probably down to learning better technique.
     
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  8. SwarmingSlugger

    SwarmingSlugger Active Member Full Member

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    Its actually both Jack Dempsey said any man can punch with the proper technique etc. Thomas Hearns was never known as a puncher in the amateurs when he turned pro Steward trained him to maximize his technique to become the puncher we know him to be. Some are more genetically gifted in this area just like other areas like speed. When Hector Camacho moved up in weight he actually hit harder with a heavier weight and sitting down more on his punches.
     
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  9. Inevitability

    Inevitability New Member Full Member

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    Someone like Hearns makes it tricky
     
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  10. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hearns really is a strange case. He must have been doing everything wrong to go from a nobody in terms of power to one of the hardest P4P punchers.
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Depends on what level.

    Can you turn anyone into Mike Tyson? Obviously not. Anyone who says otherwise is a charlatan and is probably trying to sell you something. At the highest level, everything is born and honed. You need both elite genetics and a lifetime of experience and training, it's very rare for someone with just one to be true all time great at anything in anything.

    But can you make anyone hit harder? Absolutely. All living things are adaptable, and if they're not, they die. Humans are no exception. You can get better at virtually anything a person can do, but the enemy is time. A fighter who wasn't born without power has to spend years - possibly decades - of specialising in strength and conditioning work dedicated to building power. Starting off by building a base of strength, then gradually working that strength into strength-speed, then power, then speed-strength. This takes a LOT of time. Time that a fighter who was born with God given power would be spending how to use it.

    It should be said however, that the easiest way of increasing how much power you can produce for any activity is to add weight to a lean frame. A 200lb athlete is gonna hit a lot harder than a 100lb athlete and it doesn't matter what sport they're in. In adding weight, you'll lose something pretty much everything a boxer needs it. Speed, agility, conditioning, chin, coordination, etc.
     
  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I think that's just a simple case of a late bloomer growing into his power. Man strength is a real ****in thing, and when Hearns got his, he was something else.

    I'm sure the technical aspect helped, but it isn't everything. Look at Wilder or Foreman. Or for someone Hearns' size, Cuevas.
     
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  13. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    And the winning answer.
     
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  14. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hearns kind of disproves this rule due to how big of a puncher he became as a pro.
     
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  15. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Always a few rules to the exception.