Does Luis Ortiz have one more big fight in him?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Vegan Beast, Sep 6, 2023.


  1. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

    4,070
    4,310
    Aug 19, 2020
    Did well vs Wilder twice, arguably should have had a TKO victory in first fight.

    If it wasn't for the knockdowns, he'd have won vs Ruiz with the cards being quite close. He won more rounds than Ruiz.

    He's kind of like Povetkin. Skills and power still there, but easy to knockdown. Still entertaining though.

    Who should King Kong call out?
     
  2. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,930
    7,578
    Jan 21, 2015
    He should retire. Big money is gone, he's just old now and set up to take a lot of CTE without the payoff. Would hate to see him get fed to someone like Jalolov for <$1m purse.
     
  3. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

    3,818
    6,757
    May 6, 2021
    Has he ever had a big fight?

    A couple of scraps with a renowned coward in Wilder (for a belt true, but a belt that saw less quality action than some paper belts) and a bout with a disinterested gatekeeper in Jennings is hardly a stellar career.

    And it's unfair to Povetkin to compare the two - Povetkin has a solid resume and fought some solid top tier fighters... Ortiz had the chance to fight the best in the division at the time in Joshua and decided he'd rather fight for far less money against the inferior Wilder because he knew full well he had a much better chance.

    Ortiz isn't even a has-been.. to be a has been, you have to have been something... Ortiz is a never-was, with a startlingly inflated reputation for how little he actually accomplished.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    112,576
    47,151
    Mar 21, 2007
    He was six and two threes against Ruiz, too. I think we could see him do one more, yes.
     
  5. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

    955
    1,363
    Sep 4, 2023
    Luis Ortiz is one of the most overrated dude in division. He got one quiet good win but for some reason he always was called hw boogyman... The truth is he avoid few name on his carier:
    Ustinov- for WBA regular what give him good chance to fight with WBA champion later
    Joshua- he got great money offer when Miller was out
    Hrgovic- for IBF mandatory- said he is injured
    He done nothing in division. Only twice got koed with Wilder.
    There is big chance that Wilder choose him because they know that he got problem with taking big shoots.

    Now he is old, his feet dont work good and he react electric after being punched. He was already too long in top 10 for nothing.

    Good boxer but done nothing.
     
  6. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,076
    6,513
    Nov 17, 2021
    Razor close fight against Ruiz, would have won if his chin was a tad sturdier. I wouldn't want to see him in the ring again, but at some point he was a force.
     
  7. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

    6,623
    11,805
    Mar 17, 2017
    He's in his 80's . He needs to be taking up quiet sports like dominoes and lawn bowls.
     
    Holler and Pepsi Dioxide like this.
  8. 11player

    11player Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,148
    362
    Sep 19, 2007
    You forgot he ducked Dillian White , several times. Takam also.

    Wasted his career by not taking chances, his manager is awfull.

    He is definetelly faded now, but was still competitive against Ruiz.

    Parker, Dillian, Miller, Sanchez, could be interesting fights.
     
    fencik45 and kiwi_boxer like this.
  9. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,531
    11,265
    Oct 22, 2020
    I'm in the camp he should probably call it a day, though easy to say, harder to do when a promoter comes along and offers you 6 or 7 figures for a fight.

    He's looked vulnerable especially so since Charles Martin, a fight he was getting dropped and losing before catching Martin. His legs are gone and his chin is going. Plus he's been inactive for a year at his age.
     
    Bigcheese and Lesion of Doom like this.
  10. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,870
    2,397
    Jun 7, 2015
    I wouldn't mind seeing him in against the right opponent. His legs are gone and his chin looks vulnerable, but he still has some power and skills and hasn't taken a ton of damage in his career. Pointless as it would be I'd kind of like to see him fight Whyte.
     
  11. CMCanavessi

    CMCanavessi Member Full Member

    272
    242
    Aug 1, 2022
    He should be fed up to the likes of Ajagba, Makhmudov, Anderson, Hrgovic, etc...
     
    Finkel likes this.
  12. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,912
    12,159
    May 8, 2014
    His legs looked very weak against Ruiz. A slight breeze could knock him over.
     
    MarkusFlorez99 likes this.
  13. _Scott_

    _Scott_ Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,169
    2,167
    Sep 7, 2015
    I hope so, had him winning the Ruiz fight 113-112.
     
  14. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,870
    2,397
    Jun 7, 2015
    Comparing the Martin performances, Ortiz might just pull off the win over Anderson.
     
  15. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

    31,237
    29,281
    Apr 4, 2005
    Right now he's totally irrelevant in regards to the landscape of the heavyweight division, yeah he's still ranked by a few of the sanctioning bodies but he's 2-2 in his last 4 fights and hasn't fought for a year so I don't see him getting moved into an eliminator for a title.

    Looking at the PBC heavyweight roster we have Demirezen, Helenius, Pero, Kownacki, Arreola and Sanchez who have not already fought him. I don't think any of those fights offer him a good payday and do nothing to raise his profile, so probably best to stay inactive until PBC can build another rising heavyweight then wheel out an ancient Ortiz to pad that fighters record.