Is Joe Gans a boxing genius, or is he primitive?

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter

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    I've seen a few people debate how good Gans looks on film, so I thought I'd dedicate a thread to it.

    What are your thoughts? Do you think he looks good, or dated? Why do you think it?

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  2. Boxed Ears

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    If you know what it takes to make ancient tools, you'll know that you can be contextually primitive and a genius.
     
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  3. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People tend to concentrate on the lower hands fighters held back then so the older fighters get discredited but he looks to have good footwork and he knew how to control distance in a fight.
     
  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Genius. Footwork. Right hand leads. Fighting off axis. A full repertoire of uppercuts. Great understanding and control of distance.
     
  5. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People don't know what to look for. Majority of boxing fans eye test consists of judging aesthetics and proximity to the boxers they hold in high regard (not a bad measure per se).

    Gans was a great, great fighter. Dedicated to the development of fighting science.
     
  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    People who are dismissive of the old timers based on footage, are typically albeit not always, poor at analyzing fight films.

    If you ask them what they wee looking at, they probably missed most of what was important.
     
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  7. Clinton

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    My man
     
  8. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing

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    Hard to say judging by the few minutes avaliable. He does not look fast for a lightweight, but not primitive in any sense of his technique.
    Looks like a smart and crafty guy to fight against, I'm sure he had many tricks that guys today don't even realize that can be done.
     
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  9. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    genius.

    fight like it's unlimited rules in a 12 rnd fight you'd look the fool.
     
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  10. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Was Archimedes sub-genius because he fell a touch short of discovering infinitesimal calculus?
     
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    I was just about to type E = MC2. Same difference. You beat me to it again and took all the glory. I hate you.
     
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    Well now you’re just showing off - trying to play Tesla to my Einstein.

    If anyone asks me what it’s like to be smartest man live, believe me, I won’t be responding with “Don’t ask me, ask Boxed Ears.”

    Nah nah. I’m the King of the Castle, you’re the dirty rascal.
     
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