Zhilei Zhang vs Joe Joyce II - September 23 // Wembley Arena

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Zhilei Zhang vs Joe Joyce - Who Wins?

  1. Zhang by T/KO

  2. Zhang by Decision

  3. Joyce by T/KO

  4. Joyce by Decision

  5. Draw

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  1. unfriendlyorchid

    unfriendlyorchid Probably moaning about Sky Sports Full Member

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    I don't disagree with that. FWIW in retrospect, there was a big element of that in the first Smith-Eubank too, after his boiling down to 157 for Benn.

    I guess my hypothesis here is that Joyce's lower weight really impacted him first time out, and it's a factor why I'm backing him tomorrow. There's a big element of "he can't be that bad again, surely?", just as there was with CEJ.
     
    unfriendlyorchid, Sep 22, 2023
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  2. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No doubt Joyce boxes early whilst Zhang is dangerous. Taking the cautious approach early and being on the move.

    Then late on as Zhang gases Joyce takes him out. Probably gets stopped by the referee jumping in as Zhang is exhausted on the ropes absorbing punishment.
     
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  3. _Scott_

    _Scott_ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Zhang stops him very early
     
    _Scott_, Sep 22, 2023
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  4. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Think we see a repeat of the first, Joyce could only block punches with his head for so long, think it's all caught up with him now.
     
    BoxingABC1, Sep 22, 2023
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  5. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just put £20 on Joyce pts at 11/4

    Decent value bet for me, so I took it
     
    Wig, Sep 22, 2023
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  6. Goodfella23

    Goodfella23 Member Full Member

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    Joyce has put on a massive amount of weight from the first fight and is even 10lbs above his previous career heaviest. I really don't see the need for it. He looked great for the first fight but just didn't take the opponent serious enough.

    I just hope he hasn't fecked his greatest attribute - Stamina.
     
    Goodfella23, Sep 22, 2023
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  7. Dragon Punch

    Dragon Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He didn’t look great in the first fight at all- he looked undersized and unwell to me. As a result he didn’t have his usual snap in his punches or general strength. I would have preferred that he came in at around 270 which was his weight against Parker, but I don’t see his stamina being affected - he is like a Land Rover. He’s built for harsh terrain.
     
    Dragon Punch, Sep 22, 2023
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  8. Goodfella23

    Goodfella23 Member Full Member

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    I wouldn't have minded had he come in even 10lbs heavier but 25lbs seems excessive. Looks a bit bloated whereas Zhang looks natural.
     
    Goodfella23, Sep 22, 2023
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  9. Gregor1987

    Gregor1987 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    20 stone of Juggernaut!

    C’mon Joe!
     
    Gregor1987, Sep 22, 2023
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  10. londonboxingess

    londonboxingess Active Member Full Member

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    Won't be the most exciting but quite looking forward to this again, two evenly matched fighters in a heavyweight clash
     
    londonboxingess, Sep 22, 2023
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  11. roeknott

    roeknott 7.12.20 Full Member

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    I don't believe that since the first fight JJ will have had the time to make the changes he needs to win, he has fought the same way all of his career, he will try and employ his new self but he will just revert to type i'm afraid, i hope i am wrong and would love to see him win, but i just can't see it happening.
    Same result as last time, but maybe a couple of rounds longer.
     
    roeknott, Sep 22, 2023
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  12. ALN93

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    On a side note it’s good to see an even match-up with no PPV, no hyperbole and no fake build up or trash talk… just 2 decent fellas having a scrap. I’m on holiday in Greece tomorrow so will probably miss it but enjoy the fight chaps.
     
    ALN93, Sep 22, 2023
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  13. Here's Johnny

    Here's Johnny Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Enjoy your holiday mate. I’ll swap you if you want haha.
     
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  14. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Looking at Joyce’s weight he’s gone hardcore on the gear and is juiced to the gills.
     
    Manning, Sep 22, 2023
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  15. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What's that, an 11kg gain in a 5 month window at 38yrs of age on top of an already trained body? Seems legit!

    "Juicy" Joe Joyce
     
    Finkel, Sep 22, 2023
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